19800806 Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 7.2.41

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The following is a lecture given by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami Mahārāja on August 6, 1980 – in Denmark. The lecture begins with a reading from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 7.2.41.

Every conditioned soul receives a different type of body according to his work, and when the engagement is finished, the body is finished. Although the spirit soul is situated in subtle and gross material bodies and different forms of life, he is not bound by them, for he is always understood to be completely different from the manifested body. God is not responsible for the living entities accepting different types of bodies. One has to accept a body according to the laws of nature and one’s own karma. Therefore, the vedic injunction is that a person engaged in material activities should be given directions by which he can intelligently apply his activities to the service of the Lord to become free from material bondage, a repeated birth and death. Svakaramanatam abhya siddhinga vindatti manav the Lord is always ready to give benedictions.

Indeed, his directions are elaborately given in Bhagavad Gītā. If we take advantage of these directions, then in spite of our being conditioned by the laws of material nature, we shall become free to attain our original constitution. Mami va gay purpaante ma ametrantite. We should have firm faith that the Lord is supreme and that if we surrender to him, he will take charge of us and indicate how we can get out of material life and return home back to Godhead. Without such surrender, one is obliged to accept a certain type of body according to his karma, sometimes as animal, sometimes a demigod, and so on. Although the body is obtained and lost in due course of time, the spirit soul does not actually mix with the body but is subjugated by the particular modes of nature with which he is sinfully associated.

Spiritual education changes one’s consciousness so that one simply carries out the orders of the supreme Lord and becomes free from the influence of the modes of material nature. Every conditioned soul receives a different type of body according to his work, and when the engagement is finished, the body is finished. Although the spirit soul is situated in subtle, engrossed material bodies and different forms of life, he is not bound by them, for he is always understood to be completely different from the manifested body. Just as fire is situated within wood, yet is separate from wood, it is not the same as wood. In the same way the spirit soul is within the body, yet it is separate. It is not the same as the other ingredients within this material body. This spirit soul does not mix with the body, but it is subjugated.

It is controlled by the sinful association with the three modes of material nature. The three modes of material nature mix with each other. That makes three in three different combinations, and then again they mix and you come up with 81 different combinations. Those are considered to be principal. Then there are again so many mixtures in the mode of goodness, mode of passion and mode of ignorance which create the unlimited varieties of life within this universe. All mixtures of the basic three ingredients. Satya raja tamas but the living entity is individual and independent from this mixing. But due to the association with material nature, the living entity thinks, I am the enjoyer of this material world and thus is bound by the stringent laws of this material world.

Prakriti Kriyamani Gunai Karamanasara Vasa Hankara Yudhatma Kortahamiti manatee bewildered by illusion the conditioned soul is thinking I am the Dover Kotami timamy in factuality, in actuality, the doer is this material world. This material energy is doing everything. The living entity is simply desiring so long as the living entity is desiring to be independent of Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Bahir Muka Bhogavan Shakore so long as he is turning his face away from Kṛṣṇa, desiring sense gratification. Māyā Japatiyad Bhure Māyā is simply tackling him, tackling that living entity and binding stick very rigidly within her grips. So we are trying in this material world to get out of these grips by making so many plans. But here it very clearly states that everyone is suffering and enjoying according to his karma. Person is working very hard from morning till night with the idea I will become happy.

Bhaktivedino Thakur he wrote a beautiful song in Bengali, Amar Jiwan, where he portrayed that he was born. He was in the begging to be born, suffering in the womb, so many miserable conditions he was born and then he was immediately worshiped by everyone. And he forgot all about his prayers to Kṛṣṇa to become a devotee. And he was thinking, everything is meant for me. They are feeding me, they’re clothing me, they’re taking care of me. I am the center of all attraction. So therefore the world is meant for my pleasure. In this way, he passed his days playing as he grew. Finally he was sent to school. In school, he had to compete very hard with his classmates. Finally going to primary school, high school, he went into his degree course and he finished his. His cultivation of materialistic knowledge.

After getting his degree, then he went on the market to compete to get his service. Then he got married. He has so many children and he goes on singing that how he becomes absorbed in various kinds of activities. Finally he prays that now I am becoming old, nothing is very pleasant anymore. And I am thinking that how I have led my whole life and I have simply forgotten your lotus seat. O my dear darling of Yaśodā Anandam, how I have led my whole life simply absorbed in these activities and forgetting all along your lotus feet. Now I am simply thinking how I can be engaged in your service. I simply surrender unto you.

So here Śrīla Prabhupda has said in this purport that we should have firm faith that the Lord is supreme and that if we surrender to him, he will take charge of us and indicate how we can get out of material life and return home back to Godhead. Without such surrender, one is obliged to accept a certain type of body according to his karma. Sometimes as animal, sometimes a demigod, and so on. That unless one surrenders to Kṛṣṇa, that means he is free from his karma. Kṛṣṇa says, by surrendering to me, Kṛṣṇa says, I deliver you from all your karma. So unless someone is surrendering to Kṛṣṇa, that means he is not delivered from his karma. Work done for Vishnu is purifying, and work done not for Vishnu is binding. That is the real secret of karma.

So one who is working against Vishnu’s interests, he is subject to accept all the fruits of his activities, all the karma fallout. What is that fruit? That in the next life, after leaving his body, he must again take birth in this material world, either as a human or as animal or as a demigoday. Naragay Duvai dhanda raja danda jana norite Suvai. Sometimes one is raised to swarga, heavenly planet. Sometimes he’s cast down to hell, just like a criminal in the dunking stool is sometimes put within the water and sometimes lifted out. This is a position we’re in. We’re dumped into the water, and we are just about to. We feel we’re going to drown. We don’t like it all anymore, this material world. And then Māyā gives one little bit of help, little bit of material bhoga. And we kick one grass of air.

And we think, now I am enjoying. Then again, dunk into that water, again suffer. And then we get one grasp of one breath of air. And again we think, now I am enjoying. Again we are cast into this miserable condition. This is what is happening. So this law of karma is very complex. The law of karma is working in multiple stages. Even if someone thinks that I have led a good life, I have not tried to cheat anyone, I have not tried to hurt anyone. I am leading a good life. Therefore, I have nothing to fear. Unfortunately, this is not the position you may have known. The story of Mahabharat is actually Jamraj. The same jamraj that is speaking here is Bidura in the Mahabharata. Now, how is it? Bidura is considered to be the son of a maidservant.

How is it that Jamraj, the most exalted demigod, is forced to take birth as the son of a maid servant? Subhad, do you know what are you doing? No, you keep it open. The history is that millions of years before, the one great sage was sitting in his ashram and some dacoits were fleeing. Some criminals were fleeing from the king soldiers. And two of them hid within his ashram, unknowing to the sadhu. So when they searched in the ashram, they said, do you have any criminals here? He says, no, they searched, they found two men. They said, oh, you are concealing fugitives from the law. Then they took the sadhu and he was sentenced. You must die. So he was sentenced to die by spear. They’re going to spear him or arrow spear, some projectile. So they were ready to aim.

And they’re going to just have him executed by one means to another. And at the last moment, when he was about to be pierced by the projectiles, the king’s messenger came and said, stop. Don’t kill him. The king has ordered his release. So the sage, he was very disturbed. Why he was put in Saatchi predicaments. Why he was put in such a difficult position. So he approached Jamirajdev, who is a ruler of all the karma that why I have been put in such a difficult position. What was my uproar? What was my offense? So Jamaraj explained, when you were a boy, four or five years old, then you were taking a grasp and you were poking an insect. And by poking the insect, you were creating tremendous for that insect, by poking and jabbing.

Therefore, your punishment was to nearly be killed by being pierced. Just as you were piercing when you were a child. That insect, innocent insect. The things that. I didn’t know anything. I was just a child. And for that I am suffering you. Should I curse you to take birth as a sudrae? This is not fair. I didn’t know better at that time. Zamraj says, you know better or not, you are craving pain for everything. And the law of karma is strict. You curse me, that’s another thing. But I have to carry out this law of karma strictly. No one is free. So. But as a result, Jamu raj accepted that curse and he became the son of the maidservant, he became the uncle of Kṛṣṇa.

And the illustration is that we may think that, oh, I have not committed any sinful activities or I haven’t done anything so bad. But how many things we have done in this life alone, you see? And what is the result? Nobody can properly give the weight. In addition to that, karma is coming in seven levels. Some karma is in the stage of seed stage some is unmanifest, some seed, some is about to sprout, some is just sprouting, some is already manifested growing stage, some is already giving fruit and some is finished. And this way there are seven layers of karma reactions. The wheat’s birth. Which activity will fructify at what time? There is no guarantee. 1 may have killed a person ten births ago. That sinful reaction is just now coming. Suddenly a person gets crushed under the wheels of a dumbledecker state transport bus.

He was not planning. He had gone to school and college to get his degree, to get his job. But just walking across the street, he got crushed by the double decker bus. Recently in the newspaper, maybe a year or six months ago, there was a terrible accident. About seven or eight youths were hanging outside of the bus, not an unusual sight in Calcutta. And the two buses brushed right against each other and eight people were squished on the side of the bus. Just like people would squish ants under their feet. This well may have been the result for squishing ants under the feet while walking on the path, no one can say. But critically, people will say, oh, God is so cruel. But Kṛṣṇa, he doesn’t take personal care for those who are not his devotional. They said, oh, God is dead.

God does not care. So for them, God is not caring. He has made this material world and he has made the laws by which it runs. And everyone is subjected to those strict laws. If someone is squished between two buses, this was not an accident. This meant that this was their karma. If someone becomes wealthy, that is not an accident. And if some wealthy man gets robbed, that is also not an accident. One suffers and enjoys according to his previous activities. How we act now will determine what will happen to us in the future, how successful we can be. If a person works very hard, he can get the full effect of his karma. Person doesn’t work. Even what good karma he should get, he won’t get. You see, they’re full effects. Everyone has to work.

Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad gītā, everyone has to perform the duty. If one does not perform his duty, then in the future, he will reap that result. He may enjoy for the time being the results of his previous activity. But in the future, he’s not work. No, one cannot work. It means he can be less active. But eating is going on. If one is not eating farshad, he’s eating sin Anna Kalbisha, sinful food. And if one eats prasad, it is jazzishe. It is the remnants of the sacrifice. So Kṛṣṇa says, all right, if you want to be free from this karma, I will help you. In fact, he said, you should want to be free from this material karma. If you don’t want to, you’re most unfortunate and foolish.

Kṛṣṇa clearly said, someone who thinks you see who is desiring to get this temporary material fruits. He’s less intelligent. He’s a fool. So Kṛṣṇa says that if you worship me, you come to me. If you surrender to me, I will deliver you from all this miserable nature. But if we are so proud. No, Kṛṣṇa, I will not serve you. I don’t want help from you, Kṛṣṇa. Then the responsibility lies on no one but Kṛṣṇa. Even if a person he doesn’t know about Kṛṣṇa, he ignoring Kṛṣṇa. That is also his fault. Why? He’s not trying to understand where this universe is coming. I have mother. I have father. They have mother. They have father. They had mother. They had father. They have had mother. They had father. And this way, an infinitum. We see that everyone is having a source.

So the natural inquiry a human can make is what is the source of this universe. So if someone is not inquiring, if he is ignoring Kṛṣṇa, then the result is that he is responsible. The result is he is responsible for his activity. Just like the state has so many laws. If we follow the laws of the state, then we are protected by the law. But if we disobey the laws of the state then we are forced to suffer. But the president, the state. He is above the law of the state. In so many dealings, he is considered to be immune. Of course, in democracy, they don’t give the president so much power. But in monarchy, basically the king can do no wrong. The king is not to be challenged that he is the owner on behalf of God. He is the representative of Goddesse.

So he is not challenged. You see. So Kṛṣṇa is the owner of everything. The devotee who is simply carrying out Ka’s order. He is protected by Kṛṣṇa, is not part of this material world. He is above this material world, above the action of these modes of material nature. So devotee is one who understands. Who is Kṛṣṇa. He is my eternal master. He is the supreme personality of Godhead. And he surrenders himself to that Kṛṣṇa, that supreme being carrying out his desire. That is the position of a devotee. And someone who is not a devotee has to take birth. Birth is miserable. We are born when we are a baby. We are suffering. Sometimes the mother is poking us with a pin and we are crying. We have no words to express. Please take the pin out. We’re just going and we’re being poked.

And they’re thinking, oh, maybe he has eaten something wrong. Maybe he’s suffering headache. No, I. Please pull the pin out. But he has no word to express. Simply crying. So this is our position. We are helpless. You see, in this material nature we are helpless. Although we feel ourselves very strong and powerful due to the illusion of this material world we can be crushed like a bog at any moment. We are very insignificant beings. But by the arranging of this material world we are given the maximum facility to enjoy our desires in material life. Or by Ka’s arrangement, we can become free from this illusion and we can go back to home, back to Godhead. So this Kant’s movement is meant for delivering all these fallen conditioned souls to waken them. Jeev Jago. Jeev Jago. Gora Chandrabole Kotonindra Jamaya Pisa Chirakole? Wake up.

Wake up, sleeping souls. How long will you stay sleeping on the lamp of that witch Māyā Singh? Wake up. Wake up. Who else is a friend to help you in your misery? You close the door. Who else is a friend? When we are in the hospital, when we are suffering someone is there to put the cold water on the head. Someone is there to give the injection. Someone is there to give the pill. Who is there to stop the pain so they give a painkiller. Pain is still there. We have simply become numb. No one can save us. The only one person who can save us from this birth death, old Eve, old age and disease is Kṛṣṇa. So Kṛṣṇa sends his representatives in the form of spiritual master Acharya Guru in the form of devotee.

In the form of Shaktabesh avatar in so many different forms. He personally comes himself simply to broadcast the message. How to get free from this miserable life when the leaders become God conscious. Only when the people become God conscious.

(Side B of the Cassette)

Progress in the modern age means increasing the pace of our conditioning how to become illusioned at a more rapid, intense pace, until finally people completely lose sight, thinking that they are the center. Their happiness is all that counts. They begin to look upon all their friends, all their relatives, everything, simply as a means for them to get more and more material sense gratification. Such a person, so filled with greed, becomes envious of all his competitors, and he becomes filled with hate. And thus the world is thrown into a fire of conflict, of ignorance and our misery. And all these so called propaganda based upon material illusion is simply stopgap measures which simply create another smoke screen to the real solution. People have to be redirected. They have to see the positive alternative that Kṛṣṇa has provided.

When they finally accept that unless we obey the laws of God, unless we follow the will of Kṛṣṇa, we cannot be happy and we put ourselves in kas hands. That now I am simply going to follow your instructions. Until that point, there is no shelter. Thus, one is forced into unwelcome situations again and again. As soon as one performs pure devotional service, immediately he’s given illumination, he’s given knowledge, he’s given voilago, he’s given renunciation, with self satisfaction, with spiritual bliss. When one gets the knowledge by which illusion is destroyed, then Jesus says, when one turns the light on in the dark room, everything becomes illuminated. That is this Kṛṣṇa conscious movement. Turn on the light of Kṛṣṇa and become illuminated. Thank you very much.

We have given a particular destiny. So if it’s my karma or my destiny, then I will be surrender. And if it’s not my karma, not my destiny.

Surrender to Kṛṣṇa is not a function of karma. If it were a function of karma, then why Kṛṣṇa would offer to Arjuna the choice, either you fight or you don’t fight. But I say fight. That means that there’s a choice. Living entity has minute independence. If there were just simply everything done by destiny, then there’s no question of Pap and Punya, there’s no question of sin and pious activity. Whereas the question of sin why there will be suffering if everything is done by destiny, how we are able to succeed or fail, how we are able to suffer or enjoy in our activities that is regulated by our previous activities, people are competing. Why one is able to succeed, that ability to succeed, so called success, that means increases enjoyment. That is due to how much he has performed pious activities in the past.

If someone is born, a king, born in a wealthy family, see Sutaj Janma Aishwaja let’s see. Sūta, Janmo and Aishwarya. Beauty, learning, good birth and wealth. These things are the products of highest activity. And lack of these things is the product of sinful activities. So even in material life, human being has got responsibility to choose what to do, what not to do, according to what he does, that creates, you see, new situations. But basically, because this material world is so powerful that due to association, we’re conditioned to choose in a certain way. But somehow or another, by association with a sadhu, by association with a devotee, or by Kṛṣṇa’s mercy. If we get the opportunity to choose to serve Kṛṣṇa or not to serve Kṛṣṇa, that choice has to be made.

It is not a matter of destiny that the choice will be given to us. That may be destiny, but we have to. What choice we will make, that is up to our own individual. Some people are not at all destined to meet with such a good fortune. But particularly because he devotes, he goes out of his way to give him good fortune. Even where a person has no good fortune, he benefits somehow or another. Whether we are fortunate or whether we are unfortunate. If we get to shelter of Kṛṣṇa, that is our real fortune. In this mature world, one does not have to try for happiness. Or just like we dont have to try for misery, it is coming automatically. But the shasta is saying, if you want to get spiritual emancipation, if you want to get Kṛṣṇa consciousness, you must try for it.

One must inquire into the truth because that does not come by destiny. That has to come only by individual effort. It is like we are wrapped up in this big wheel of karma. We have to try to get out of it. The only attempt is try to get to Kṛṣṇa. Otherwise we are in the wheel. Kṛṣṇa is outside of the wheel. Therefore, the results of destiny are within. You see this karma chakra? Unless one gets the mercy of Kṛṣṇa, he cannot get out of it. If a person is given that opportunity, does not take the does not take this opportunity, it is simply understood. He is most bewildered. He has lost his intelligence and no one knows what is their destiny.

If a person is destined to be given the choice to go to Kṛṣṇa and he gets a choice and he refuses and gives excuse. No. When Kṛṣṇa drags me by my ear, I will come. If I enforce it, then I will do. That means he does not want Kṛṣṇa. He was given the choice. He is rejected. Therefore he is forced to suffer. It is not that Kṛṣṇa is going to drag one. You see, there has to be a little desiree. One has a choice to accept or reject? If we accept Kṛṣṇa, we get his shelter. If we reject Kṛṣṇa, we get the shelter of his illusory energy, mahamaya. And we are wrapped up in the destiny of that unlimited wheel of karma. So we can choose our master.

We can have Kṛṣṇa, who is eternal youthful beauty, who is the compassionate, kind lord to personally take charge of our life. Or we can have his agent Māyā, the prison keeper, take care of us. We can choose our mask. Any other question? Yes, this is a theoretical question. Just like you can ask that if there were no more criminals in this world, what would happen to the prison houses, the jailers and the jail keepers? So we should propagate crime to give all these people more jobs? You see, the same question was said Vasudev Datta, one great devotee of Lord Caitanya. He prayed, I want to deliver all the fallen souls. Let them all go back to Kṛṣṇa. And I take all their karma. I will personally take all of their karma and I will suffer here forever. Until all the karma is worked out.

Let them go back to Kṛṣṇa. I alone will suffer. And Lord Caitanya, he saw the great compassion of his devotee, was crying and embraced him and said that you don’t have to worry, they’re already delivered by your desire. But as soon as one batch is delivered, there is unlimited jīva atmas that are still now in a dormant stage in the Brahma Jyoti, in different positions. And as soon as one batch of jivas delivered from the universe again new Jeevat must come down. So you dont have to worry. Always a fresh supply. Any other question?

So minister, consciousness is no more than an intellectual farming. In the beginning, the pandemic still turned out. How does one understand what was destined to him do to this farm? Does he receive that or not receive that? He’s not under the influence. It’s under Kṛṣṇa’s direction. One’s destined to be a leader. One’s destined to be poor. One’s destined to be rich. How does that work?

The accumulated karma reactions which are there have to be completely nullified before one can go back to Godhead. So long as one has sinful reaction, she has to suffer. So long as he pious activity, he has to enjoy suffering and enjoying materially are both causes for staying in this material world. So when one surrenders to Kṛṣṇa, if one can completely surrender thought world and did everything to Kajden, then of course Kṛṣṇa can immediately take up all the reactions. But generally one surrenders to Kṛṣṇa. But the momentum, the desires have yet to be purified. So Kṛṣṇa takes charge of that living entity. And as he’s performing his devotional service, as he’s chanting the accumulating sins, sinful reactions from the unlimited birth are being destroyed.

It is said that while one is chanting, clapping hands as he is smiling at the deity, that as he’s clapping his hands, just as in the rice paddy, sometimes the sparrows are coming down and eating the rice. Then we have to clap our hands to scare them away. And you see it, thousands of birds, they fly off just like that. As you’re clapping and chanting, dancing and laughing or smiling in kīrtana, as you’re clapping like this, thousands and thousands of sinful reactions are flying away. So? So, in this way, so many karma reactions are being at every moment we are performing devotional service, they are being lifted. But because we may be harboring so many attachments, in spite of formally surrendering to Kṛṣṇa, he has taken charge of our life as a time of initiation and surrender.

But due to so many attachments and so many Māyā’s reactions are not, the momentum is still there on those reactions. So Kṛṣṇa allows us to enjoy or suffer tokens. This, like a person, he may be enjoying what appears to be a karma of being very wealthy or very powerful. The Kṛṣṇa may allow him to maintain that because he promises, I preserve whatever you have and what you lack, I give. In other words, if a person has something good on his side, Kṛṣṇa doesn’t say, I have to smash it down. He maintains it because when one is pure, he is all good. Highest activity is because it is intended for material sense gratification. It is not pure goodness. It is materially contaminated goodness. But a devotee is all goodness, pure goodness. So Kṛṣṇa protects what good qualities are there. And he gives what is lacking.

So there may be so many sinful reactions pending. We may have committed a murder. We may have done so many different things. Eating meat, taking intoxication, illicit sex in so many different births. So the reaction for that should come, you see, directly. But instead, Kṛṣṇa gives a token. Propad once cut his finger and blood came. He said that in our previous birth, you see, I have chopped a man’s head off. And for that now I am giving one drop of blood. A token is given to remind us that how fallen were. To remind us how we have to be humble and submissive to Kṛṣṇa. Because our tendency is to become independent, to become very proud, intoxicated by our material situation.

And so then Kṛṣṇa, he gives doles out a little bit of our karma to us in a reduced infinitesimal token manner to just put us in our place, to remind us and purify. We get purified by suffering. This is the actual fact. People say that, no, if people are hungry, they will never chant God’s name. You have to feel everyone’s belly. Then they will chant. But we find that where the people’s bellies are more full, they don’t like to chant so much. You go in the village and with the poor people, they will all very gladly chant. But if you go into very, you see, wealthy society, what do I need? I have already got my money. I have got everything I need. When I get old, maybe I will. That time I will chant God’s name.

Now I have to go on increasing my wealth where there is great financial difficulty. Everyone is praying to God. And then when he gives them all, I get, well, they become wealthy, then they forget. Then they think, oh, economic development is enough. I don’t need any more God. And then he takes everything away. Then again, they stay there in a position. That is what happened. After the inca coming of Kali Yuga. All the India was the richest place in the world. America was discovered simply because Columbus was trying to find India to get this short route to get all the wealth, gold and the silks and the masalas. It was the wealthiest place in the world. But due to Kali yuga, all the hindu kings, they gradually became, you see, intoxicated and brahminical culture went down gradually by birth.

Cast consciousness became established in a rampant exploitation. As a result of this, then so many foreign conquests came. And gradually India fell to the foreigners and fell under mughal rule, then under british rule. Now there’s a so called independence. But you can say that it’s under a foreign political system because the systems which are being used are not the original systems of vedic culture. They’re mental concoctions. So the difficulty is there that if someone becomes too proud, then he is forced to, you see, have everything taken away by Kṛṣṇa as a special mercy. Then he can think that why I am suffering. Oh, I must remember Kṛṣṇa. Otherwise, when one is in his heyday, he has no time for Kṛṣṇa. That is the general thing. The demigods, they forget about Kṛṣṇa often, you see? And when they. Not often, but sometimes.

And when they forget, then the asuras come and defeat them. Kṛṣṇa puts. Then they go to the VIshnu and pray, please help us. Kṛṣṇa did not have asuras to fight with the Devī gods. They would forget in their enjoyment. So in this material world, there’s always this conflict. And it has a sublime purpose to bring the people back to Kṛṣṇa. But in a spiritual sky where everyone is surrendered to Kṛṣṇa, there’s no conflict by Kunta. The more we depend on Kṛṣṇa, the more he takes charge of our life and the more we try to make our own alternative arrangements. You see, beyond maintaining, we have two things. We have to maintain our body. We have to be Kṛṣṇa conscious.

So beyond maintaining our body, if we try to increase unnecessarily our material entanglement, then you see, to that extent, Kṛṣṇa, he will not give his mercy. Or he will give his mercy by then giving one a good blast of misery to wake up that what am I doing? This is a terrible position I am in. Kṛṣṇa, help me. Kṛṣṇa, help me. Someone may know that what reaction will come, what severity the reaction will take. That is, that regulator is held by Kṛṣṇa. The devotee gets a token finish, non devotee, full blast. And the devotee is not accused. Learning new karma. So as the karma is going off, as the reaction is being expended, it’s finished. And gradually the load is getting lighter and lighter. And one is getting closer and closer to Kṛṣṇa. More attracted to Kṛṣṇa, more spontaneously devoted to Kṛṣṇa.

While the non devotee, every karmic reaction creates more reactions. He becomes more and more weighted down with unlimited accumulation until finally falls down and goes back into the lowest species of life. Any other question? Did I answer your question? You see, whatever one does for Kṛṣṇa, for that he is never the loser. He always gains. If one gets money by sinful means, then if he offers to Kajden, he can get forgiven for them. But Kṛṣṇa does not want that a person should go on committing sinful activities. That’s why people who are committing these sinful activities, they generally speaking, don’t give to Kṛṣṇa. They may give to some demigod. They know that if they give to Kṛṣṇa, then Kṛṣṇa say, oh, this living entity wants to give, get my shelter. Then Kṛṣṇa puts in such a position.

He takes away the opportunity to commit such sinful activity and gives opportunity to more fully devote in Kṛṣṇa service. So they avoid Kṛṣṇa. These generally speaking, the people doing heavily sinful activity. And they approach some demigod because they think that, well, I will give and I will get back some more opportunity to enjoy sinful life without any. In other words, someone who is sinning very heavily. Usually, unless he gets put in some very difficult position, he won’t like to get out. So, but if one, somehow or another gives to Kṛṣṇa, then he’s freed from that sin. No doubt Kṛṣṇa takes the reaction. But Kṛṣṇa does not want that. One should earn money by unfair means and give to him. So then Kṛṣṇa will try to give some good instruction to that person.

But if one is actually giving money by any means and giving to Kṛṣṇa, then he is like a tax collector, you see, because everything is belonging to Kṛṣṇa. Actually, everyone should be giving to Kṛṣṇa. Other sinful people, they are not giving to Kṛṣṇa. So one is actually taking giving to Kṛṣṇa. Where is the question of sinful activity? The problem is that someone who is engaging in illicit activity and then said, I am going to give to Kṛṣṇa. Generally, due to such a tamasic association, they never get. They get contaminated and cannot give to Kṛṣṇa. Therefore, it is recommended that a Vaishnava should not perform activity which is against the regulatory principle. But in this material world, every work is sinful. Every work has got some bad part to it. If you do business, you must tell lie in chief.

There’s no way out of it. That’s why if a man is doing business, he must be giving to Kṛṣṇa. If he doesn’t, definitely he will be defeated by this material energy. Because you have to tell lies to do business. If you tell a person who’s buying something, this thing is not very good. You bought it. Someone who told you it’s very good, you bought it. You say, oh, it’s not good. If you tell everybody, this is not good. But you should buy anyway. No one will buy. You have to say, this is a first class. It may have a ripping, it may have a defect. It’s a very good thing. You must say if you want to make your money back. So you want to make no profit. So business means to some extent, you see, there has to be a little bit of misrepresentation.

But you can say at least not a complete representation. Representation of all effects. Otherwise, how you can make money. So it’s a question of degree. If a person is putting poison in the oil, giving mobile oil and killing people and giving the money to Kṛṣṇa, he may get some relief. But he may also have to suffer for the reactions. And then he will get the results of giving to Kṛṣṇa. How Kṛṣṇa will do, you say? Unless one fully surrenders, he doesn’t get full shelter. And once one fully surrenders, then he can’t do that. He can’t poison people with mobile oil. Because that’s against the regulatory principles. So until one is fully surrendered, he will get both the punya and the pop. He won’t get the spiritual shelter. So that means he will have to suffer for his misdeed.

And he will have to, you see, get enjoyment for his good deed. So the advantage is, one can get the good deeds first and then these sinful reactions. So if he gets somehow the opportunity to associate with the devotee and surrender to Kṛṣṇa, then he’s saved. Otherwise, he’s not fully protected even if he gives donations, it’s a.