19820825 Conversation with Devotees

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The following is a conversation with devotees on Devotional Service, Prasādam, and Spiritual Responsibilities, held by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami Mahārāja on August 25, 1982 – in Atlanta, USA.

I personally, most of the family probably told us something just grow in my upper room, which seemed to be very natural. But in the west, you have to do a lot of preaching, obviously, after buying from the storm. That may be a change. But I say, despite numerous discussions, I don’t know why devotees aren’t the health groups. And I think the easiest way to sum it up is either start getting into maybe some very easy ways that they could increase some of the healthiness in our foods. But in many ways, if you started getting healthy, so help the chances of so much trouble that they didn’t go into service. You can follow what I mean.

Oh, yeah, I know what you mean.

Most of the dogs I have seen, they were into health foods. They’re usually the sickest ones. I mean, like, they’re so concerned about health foods, but simultaneously they’re always going to a doctor, taking pills and vitamins, and they’re always sick. It’s an intensive, body conscious program.

See, that’s why when you learn how to cook for the beauty, there was a lot of hidden meaning to that. And that whoever the cook wants to put, I mean, if they cook the deities and, you know, quartz, brown ice or something, probably do a little reaction, generally cook like bars, and I will do some nice, you know, rice and some poison like that. But in terms of the other ingredients, whether you only use whole wheat flour, white flour, things like that’s all in the hands of the cook because usually, you know, maybe your cook, and, like, how many cooks? All white flour, but, like here, the cook doesn’t eat anything but wheat flour. So that’s all I am going to cook.

So even if you just cook for the deity, you learn how to do that, then you will find out a lot of these things are just in the hands of the cook. It’s not really like a temple policy that you have to apply for all, but to be, you know, unless the person’s actually getting sick, you develop into like a whole hypochondriac or a whole kind of a preoccupation to such an extent. I mean, there’s people, whole people that they’re, you know, as you say, there’s like a whole health philosophy that’s developed in America where people, you know, so much of their mental energy is spent on just what they’re eating. And that would actually, in the long run, distract.

In other words, we’re not even supposed to see when we take prashad, generally, we’re not supposed to say, well, even say it’s not so good. On the receiving end, you’re supposed to disrespect it. Well, it’s prashant, of course, over a period of time, actually, afterwards you might tell us that. But from the receiving end we’re supposed to gradually developing a different mentality this. Generally the cooks or the temple managers have a little more leeway in that to really get into and trying to make things nice.

I have been through that phase of being intensely body and health conscious like that, where it was a total preoccupation. But coming out the other side of that, I just developed some day to day regimen which kept me maintained nicely. And I find that if I could supplement prasadam that I get at the temple with salad or with some fruit juice or with something that isn’t available here, then I would be content anyway.

It’s probably just a traditional stage they’re doing eating one way for so long. Then again, I just say if you take, you know, sometimes you might still just have to dislike. It’s kind of like withdrawal. You have to just take that once in a while. When I first went to India, they said I couldn’t eat the alligator rice. And I always used to eat in the rice. Now.

As you say, I do have a whole philosophy around it. So it’s not that I can just drop the eating some particular thing around. It is a whole conceptual framework which is not easy for me to destroy. And I recognize the necessity for it.

But I mean, I see it as a preoccupation just like you say, white flour and water like faces. But I mean, if you eat a pori, it’s already been fried and heat. If it’s actually been well cooked, I don’t see how it’s going to make a taste or under certain how frequent. I mean, in other words, your mind would tend probably to exaggerate it more than it really is. It’s not that the first white flower thing is going to kill you, but I mean, you build up a whole thing like that, like I am taking poison when actually there might be something that, you know, something is better than that or something’s more healthy or has less impurities. But it’s not that the amount of impurities, so much of it that necessarily really creates any reaction.

The fact that it’s one actively engaged in christian service, I mean, as I suggest, as supernova, do we have any like blue crossings? How do we devote these too? In most cases, devotees really don’t get a lot of sicknesses is due to the karma more than what we. So anyway, I just wanted that actually, it’s just a concern that some or another you should get out of the. Try to transcend a little bit. Don’t expect none. I don’t know what the diagnostic might say. One practical thing that Boko Ranchin suggests is suggested is he was a bit upset that he just gave two devotees away sometimes. And we said maybe he could use a trait and he would be willing to. He has a different philosophy in terms of older than he likes to live with him. He gives most of the freedoms.

And the new ones, he generally seems to provide anyone just for them already. Each one’s individual chaos gives him a little bit of new ways to see. So that might just, you know, preclude a lot of discussion and actually sign the problem right there. He did get two.

Involuntary back. There’s two roses. I don’t know which one is Connor. She used to be day up and I don’t know his wife. You know, he was in charge of cows in downtown. She has twins.

She just left. Well, she left.

She’s been up to six, eight months in May.

She left. She was wearing white.

She looks jewish.

I know. She’s the cook there, right? Yes, she’s a cook.

You got to do your type of pollution fasten. The basic thing, I mean, is that I think you made a lot of progress. You showed you can do it. You may say that. Well, you said spurt of enthusiasm. Is anything about it? Why? And you made it this far. In any case, we’re already 35 years old. Pretty good. At least half of that. Not much to the point is that it’s not good once it makes progress, to take backward steps, tactical, to change the site adjustment. The real thing is that we actually did a lot of service and everyone was like pleaser for devotional service instead of taking a lot of responsibility. And all those other people outside in America, they had a lot of, and we also had a lot of trouble living outside for years.

You couldn’t get the enthusiasm to live with. And I think it was changed after making a lot of progress. She tried to hold on to that, to reduce. That would be a shame. Rather make progress to try to increase it. Generally, if a devotee has an inspiring service and has the proper service, then.

Monique pointed it out to me. She said, the only time I bring these things up is when I am not enthusiastic about my service. And maybe it’s true I haven’t been enthusiastic at my service.

Actually, I was. I mean, this letter brought up on other points, but before I was this night, talk to see Ron was there at that time, I was thinking that, well, there’d be a lot more connection with the. Basically, it was just like, I am writing some of these books. Those things could be transcribed. I’d like to do that maybe for the words. Gathering together all the offerings of disciples from the coordinator and sending those. A lot of times it’s hard to coordinate that whichever disciple does it would be probably easier if they had sentiment.

You have a list of how many disciples you have in America or Canada? In America.

Not. Well, that wouldn’t be hard to find. I mean, I have a list of all my disciples with me. I would travel this. Now.

I was thinking, actually, ultimately, probably just easier to have, you know, an american version. You know, they can have, you know, the Indians. I know that’s what you have. One for Brazil and one for America. Sometimes some. Some may be involved, but I.

Yeah.

Sometimes like the God brothers, but even.

In India, like South India, everybody straight English. Most of my indian offerings, would anybody be. I mean, a lot of them would be in English. A section would be. Spanish is a real truth. When I try to just stand in front of.

It’s just that, you know, I mean, so far away, trying to coordinate something. By the time they get it, you know, it’s. It’s already like. I mean, they have to practically send it by October.

The other thing, because, you know, actually, if you have any literary skill effects and Sagittarius probably just like talking with Jaggede. When I come to the west, you could probably write agriculture or even. We could publish a book maybe from here. Something like the Sadhguru or something like that. Even india, because I have such a big zone. It’s actually. I don’t disciples that much. It was a long time, so.

Yeah, that would be nice. Those are nice for everyone. I mean, Sarabushin is something that everybody might just like. Sort of more elaborate scale than Reverend Daubin thing. Yeah, but that’s a little different. But still, it’s not. Everyone likes to do that, and there’s always something.

It’s beautiful.

Charlie came out with one once, but I see a follow up. It was nice.

Yeah. I would like to do something.

Jeggerby’s would be. Well, you know, he tried. He did one time, but they have no. They don’t even know English.

Yeah. He asked me this time if I would transcribe some articles that he could put together while he was in Atlanta.

He knows things I do there. He could be like a reporter, but he’s not. They did it on their own. They don’t know English. Even that one irish bar.

We have a telex we can use in Atlanta for fast. And nothing we found out.

Well, as far as things like this, you can take a week to get a litter and they get east moisture. And he’s a good for that sort of thing. But if you have it to like then for emergency things, I can help you. I didn’t realize it.

Well, we just found out that there’s a service.

They just take like a small silver tank.

Yeah, it’s nothing.

Compared to better than phoning. If you get through it immediately, then you end up talking a lot longer.

That’s very strange. Sometimes you think you’re talking so much yourself, you realize you have been talking to your own echo.

So, no, I am not. I may be not having a lot of Lakshmi, probably because Kṛṣṇa will send me whenever I need it. I don’t particularly need anyone to give me money like that. I am more concerned with you. Be strong and christian consciousness. The main thing is that you may be even able to independently be somewhat christian conscious. It’s a risk. I don’t know. But the real fact is that just like someone relates to this. Someone was saying that how that I didn’t want to bother you with my problems and I said that, no, it’s not like that. When we have young disciples, like a young child and there’s always problems and the bothersome mother, they’re at the child and they have so many childhood problems. When they grow up, the children help the parenthood.

But if, when they grow up, if they can actually help in spreading admission, then of course that’s the real debt. So I feel that you could actually do. That would be the real loss. If you just not regarding, you know, staying like hunting or coming to Atlanta, I can, of course, you know, see, round was kind of. He was feeling. He’s already, you know, halfway through. He doesn’t have a lot of hope that you’re going to stay here anyway, for various reasons. So I could even just say, yeah.

I don’t feel it’s that kind of state either. I don’t really want to stay there for a long time. I can stay there sometime. Our project really isn’t done yet, but unless there’s some like deadline, it could drag on months and months. That’s the way it’s been going. Unless he knows the noise.

If you like the land, then you think you could have judged there since Atlanta and Mari have given up a couple people already to that temple. And he’d go through services, and then he wants to take it from there with them. You can just set a deadline. I, like you have some indirect version, work one month later, finish it up, and then tell my favorite time.

I think it would be nice. I really miss being in a city because of not being able to preach, just learning to be able to preach a little. And we don’t have too much chance to do that directly in the kind of thing. I know we could do it, but we don’t do it. I was talking with the ladies in Atlanta about being able to work with them, doing the college preaching program.

We find sometimes women can get engagements, you know, like on the feminist approach, because they’re, you know, it’s a topical thing, so. And they try to be proposed, or they’re over sensitive to the fact that a woman is saying that she wants to speak. And it’s a new angle. We have had Hare Kṛṣṇa devotees come and speak. So now let’s have a Hare Kṛṣṇa woman come and speak on what it means to be a woman in Hare Kṛṣṇa. Mother Jakeel, does she find a lot of engagements? Sometimes I go, how’s my grandmother?

There’s one thing, essentially, I really didn’t understand exactly what was going on. Something about I don’t. I feel alienated from many of the women in this town because of their concepts. What’s the difference in concepts?

It’s hard to. If you educate a little girl to think that she’s weak and helpless and stupid, she would more than likely be weak and helpless and stupid because that’s what she’s been told. Unless something extraordinary happened to make her think otherwise. I just feel I have been through some sort of education which was beneficial, in a way, to give me some self concept of myself as being strong. That’s part of it. I don’t know. It’s a very.

I was found in parliament’s teachings. He never said that a woman couldn’t live on their own or couldn’t stand by themselves. He said it from a different angle, that women were actually happier, that their psychologist. That they were actually happier in a more protected way. That I don’t think that has to be completely, say, you know.

Anyway.

Different society, different social situation in now. So we can’t deal with it exactly in a varied age or something. But we could see that when we had a very active role for. They were still there. Cement. They had a protective one to play in terms of protecting the women that. But if someone was a housewife, he could be protected by the husband rather than still, there are some exceptions and even like what Mitananda’s life, even though she was protected by what Mittananda. But every time he left the preaching, she also went out. That is also the way that the man woman relationship works. Both people try to be divorced. I never seen anywhere in the world, I have seen there’s some tribes with women.

Sometimes in south India, the women’s are head of the family in Kerala and all the properties handed down to the women at the matrix society. There’s a different as a tribe in Meghalaya has a similar thing there. One woman may have five husbands, of course, and we also have five jubilee five husbands generally. We think, of course, in the Vedic, the patriarchal system is there. You never see whether it’s like, you know, it’s either one or the other somebody’s had to be in charge of. So it doesn’t work. But still, even if one, ultimately, if a person really takes the responsibility, they end up being more. They end up in protecting and supplying the needs of whoever’s bored. They have to ultimately work out on it. That practically works out nature.

But, you know, these are all like really tip of the iceberg, kind of just putting up so many things. And I would imagine that a lot of it is really that you are kind of generalizing what some people think or what some person said to you. You probably find that a lot of people have different viewpoints on you are overreacting to someone else’s overreaction. Just a little example you gave is an adult.

No, I didn’t say that. I am just saying that. I realize that’s an extreme.

Yes, I was saying that. I mean, I have seen gas stations and big dishes and everything, and the other women generally work in the house. They do all that. They do make their own cereal by hand and do things like that. But still, a husband, you know, in that pedrox situation, the husband goes out and does most of the hard work and the elements, while the women that say they raise their children, they’re there at home. And in a family situation, it’s better somebody’s at home taking care of the kids to the point that the kids that are dependent at a young age, this kind of put the children brutal and ample opportunity in the west. It just that life is so short. I’d hate to see someone get hung up on any particular issue and actually somehow avoid being push enchantress.

By just, you know, overreacting to some particular thing. So it doesn’t seem like this situation is extremely, you know, critical. Are you saying, well, even you’re feeling an obligated work at New York sometimes. When I finish it, obviously, you just think, I know I am going to.

I could even stay there. But it’s not very enlivening to me.

You don’t see a future there. You’re not enlivening.

There is a problem in that zone also, because of the overaction to adequate change of Asheron, it’s very difficult for single women to have a male authority in the temple.

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Talking about it, but because of all these vibrations in the air up there, the men are afraid to get, you know, to pay too much attention to the women. And apparently it’s a real phenomenon. A lot of people have confirmed it’s not an illusion.

What do you think? You sure that your aversion for children, that isn’t just a sour grapes kind of mentality?

I don’t know. I don’t know why it would be a sour grapes mentality. I can say I never knew how to relate to children. I haven’t had any much dealings with them. Now that I live in a gurukul, I live with children and I made a lot of progress in learning to deal with them. I never had any idea whatsoever. They just paralyzed me with fear. But now I am somewhat at ease with them.

Yeah, I just think they will never like children. So anyway, I think that, yes, you’re saying here that it’d be a lot easier. It has been very nice to be in line in where I say, look, and they think it might be good to move to Atlanta. Maybe if you just take up on that line. Considering that there’s already a couple people gone from here, it seems to be like a prime opportunity. And if you did finish out immediate pending work, probably see round. He already knows that the clemens is really upset that these people went. I don’t think he’s tried to amend things, but I don’t think he really backed down that. So it seems like a good opportunity. And we just lost a couple of people actually from Atlanta. We don’t even know if Virginia’s gonna stop.

Right.

Wasn’t there a couple people that I have seen a few faces?

Oh, yeah. One, Robert Cherry, Smokey Mountains. Just disappeared in the woods. He’s up in the woods somewhere, he told me. No, his name is Singh Bala. He’s white, kind of quiet. He wanted to be a hermit. I had preached him about a week before it happened. I thought I convinced him that being a hermit still means you have to serve someone. You have to still serve. Can’t just not. You’re gonna be on somebody’s land and you’re gonna have to talk to someone. You’re gonna have to serve yourself. And anyway, I thought I’d made some headway, but a week later he vanished into the woods.

One thing I am a little concerned is that he might just, you know, if he makes some sudden decision, I do something. I hope he won’t do that. I like to get heavy with the sunrise. You wrote the letter in such a diplomatic way, it’s very hard to distinguish. There’s a lot of minor.

You can give it to me, but.

It’S very hard to just get a finger on it.

I think it’s usually beneficial for me if people get heavy with me. Otherwise, they tend to really get out there.

Anyway, if you’re Atlanta, they don’t have more opportunity than heavy. I don’t know firsthand all the. Māyā.

I got a call last week from Doctor Diane. She is going to be in Nubendavin this weekend, and she very much wants to talk to you.

She never got me on my wedding.

She, when we got a postcard, she said, thank you very much for that. It’s given her some encouragement. But she was wondering if she could talk to you in Lubernavin this weekend or if not, where she. Where else she would be that she could go? You’re going to Boston? I think.

She’S in. I didn’t meet that girl.

Yeah, she called also last week, but they lost the phone number, so.

They.

Gave her mother pushback’s phone number.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

That’s good.

So was she still in San Jose?

She’s in new anonymous again.

She’s in Pamela Austin.

Oh, Pamela. I don’t know where she is.

She wasn’t at Laden. I could answer better on a picture phone, but it was just. She wrote 20 questions, 18 questions.

If you want to dictate every plan. What? Yeah, I will try and get in touch.

With you, especially since that letter may be obsolete. Everyone is waiting outside asking if you give Darshan tonight. Yes. Give me something to drink. Give me some of that water.

I was passing it just for my problem. He was coughing at what he was saying. He was sorry that he was sick, and he got very angry because he said that sick means, you know, to be unhealthy. Means you have a material body. That’s the real disease that you have, a material body. And for pure devotion, you know, it may be coughing or sneezing, but, you know, he. He’s not on the bodily platform. He’s, you know, on the spiritual platform that the body itself is a disease for the soul. It.

She might as well become your way. India places, they don’t eat salad. Depends on people who grow salad. Usually it’s him when you do it and the salad’s got disease on it. Cooks food. You never know what spray or this or that time. It’s hard. They grow all the lettuce from America, all in one of the valley outside of chicken. I usually take salad in the west.

But in Louisiana, lettuce, there’s one lettuce that we shouldn’t eat in the west that’s traditional, like iceberg lettuce. That’s the worst. When probably came to Atlanta, we had to get him red lettuce and red leaf. No, he would, you wouldn’t, he wouldn’t eat anything else.

He wouldn’t need the white leather.

No, that green iceberg, he would eat the red leaves with red tips. You know, he wouldn’t eat the, you know, it’s like a round ball, it’s like a green leaf. And then actually the karmic head, that’s the worst stuff. It’s filled with all kinds of spots, races.

So you know, your product, your ideas, a lot of them are productive. I mean, if you suck into that, I am sure that if someone really got into it, you find that half the stuff you eat from some other angle.

It’S also completely off the wall or.

Improper imbalance, polluted or something else.

Yeah. Who’s that one that he wrote a whole bunch of books called the mucusless dying Alistair.

Eric.

What happened was he didn’t have any mucus, but what it did is dried up his bones and all the bone, his bones, he just, they just could break them just by going down. They became completely, his body, all the bones became completely brittle by the time he was 40.

The real thing is that perfect.

I understand. I don’t want to waste my time on it, but it’s like a little bit too strong of an attachment still to just throw it away. And my mind is going to get agītāted, but I don’t want to spend a lot of time on it, just a little bit.

And the real thing is that we want to develop our spiritual body. So what one, take it from there.

Take it.

There’s probably three.

Well, I haven’t chopped wood. There’s wood to chop, but there’s been other priorities, so I haven’t opted anywhere. Yeah, I tried to measure by your shoes without it.

Okay, how much? Take the beads out and count how many beads I have. So pretty much. You’re standing by the things that you wrote here?

Pretty much, I guess so.

And the first thing is that basic attitude that say that I was swept away and tired of enthusiasm in such a tired. I grieved last fall to once again experiment and try to put these hang ups in the background of my consciousness, at least long enough to be able to live in the temple, long enough to break some of my bad habits and take initiation. So. But the thing is that just that we discussed when I gave initiation at that time, what was the relationship? And that I just questioned to what extent are you going to take the advice which I give, because a lot of the ideas you have are like from previous spiritual masters and so have various opinions. To what extent I am going to take my advice.

I want to take it.

So, I mean, becoming a pure devotee or giving 100% of the mind and everything. Of course, even our junior city couldn’t do that. Kṛṣṇa said this, concentrate on me, says nothing. My mind is when Kṛṣṇa says, you practice everything. Perfect. See, it’s not that we say that 100%. Everyone has to engage all them. But the basic thing is that one should learn to practice devotion is to make a practice of giving a leading one’s life. And such a way that Kṛṣṇa is true. A lot of this, of course, is. I think it’s like two things, three major sections. One is the dietary question. Second is something. Something about a debt? It’s just debt.

I have a debt. I owe about $1,200 to my father. I borrowed money to go to India. I went to the mycorrhiza hospital a year and a half ago.

He expected to pay back?

Yeah, I told him I had pay him back and the temple authorities all agreed, but I never had the approval.

How are you going to pay him? How did you think about him back then?

Well, I was working as a secretary at that time and I paid him back a little. When I moved into the temple, I was going to do prashadim distribution, but that has never been arranged. The temple was going to get me a car so I could do it. And that was not. That didn’t happen. And also, they have always been using my services for other things since they’re just letting me take care of that.

But there’s no specific time limit on it.

There’s no time limit, but there’s interest on it. The longer I wait, the more money I loan.

How much?

It’s like a bank, 8%. I also want to pay back, you know, I don’t see any reason not to do it again.

Bank home or is this the first one? How much you own?

10,000. Besides that, it’s a question of. I’d like to have some personal akshay. To have some personal income.

What do you mean, personal income?

I think it’s a question of feeling a little independent and also not being satisfied totally with what the temple provides in the way of maintenance.

Maintenance?

No, not just food, bathroom supplies, you know.

Usually have to go up to the temple authorities and ask them, how do you paint the bar?

Yeah, buying tapes, buying pictures. I like to give presents to people. I am not talking about a vast sum of money. Spending them.

How do you do it for the people living?

Some women, everyone’s a little bit different. Someone have allowances, you know, that are unmarried, you know, like if they have a job or something. Mother Virginia for one, she has an allowance, but sometimes she goes out and sanctum and then we let her keep $10 or something she needs, you know, it’s just a little difficult for young women sometimes in terms of going to, you know, when they’re not married and having to go to another man, needing things and so on. So we just give them some money, take care of themselves.

C. Brown was talking to me. The way he said it is that, well, she wants the. She wants the independence of a greed. Hasta, she’s the promise. That’s what he said. But what I recommend to the Russians.

I just don’t know what a Brahma training is personally. I mean, you know, I don’t. I just see the old women about saying.

Yeah.

Especially an older woman. I mean, I think it just depends on that sometimes may be a little outrageous, their desires.

So we could go into a longer discussion.

No, I’d rather it be shorter.

There’s a couple, just a practical. I mean, since you have come to temple, have you experienced any bad health?

I have been sick a good part of the year. I get colds, a lot different things, which I hadn’t normally experienced.

What’s wrong with the diet?

Too much sugar. White rice maybe. Too much sugar. Well, breakfast is sweet. There’s nothing that isn’t sweet in breakfast. Isn’t it? In the same sweets or nothing?

What they give for breakfast?

For breakfast we either have sweet cereal with sweet milk, or we have sweet pancakes and sweet milk.

I mean, if you ask them to give you milk without sugar, they won’t do it.

They will do that.

I would imagine that each temple is a slightly different value.

Yeah, it is.

It’s very different from, I mean, the temple I go to. Apart from page most hamosa, I have never seen any white flower.

The kind of tendencies is mostly white flower.

That’s because we grow up years on.

I know from my past experience, if I had, if I could cook for myself, I wouldn’t do it all the time. I would eat, you know, at least probably 50% of the temple peshad and then fill it in with brown rice or whatever thing I am feeling lack of.

Isn’t there a difference, though between balsamic rice and regular, ordinary, like, say, humple Ben Friesenhe?

These are. These are indian unpolished rice. There are some rice india that are naturally white in color. Some are naturally brown. But like Uncle Benjamin that they said parboiled, pre boiled or polished rice. There’s a big difference. They take off the coating of the bread. Even India, you can get rice where it’s hand shelled. The brown rice is a very coarse kind of rice which I think I discussed it before. Usually only the very lowest layers eat it because it’s very high protein. That’s highly vegetables indicated that it was like. Of course, it’s the. I mean, there are. Some of these brown rices have almost as much protein as wheat. Maybe the white rice doesn’t have any protein. So like, I don’t. I am a person, I don’t eat rice much. I eat long chipotles because if I eat my rice, I will go to.

Cold itself is a very cool rice. In India they eat rice in the Bengal, in the hot south, but in the north where it’s cooler. Generally speaking, they eat chipotles. But I mean, as far as, you know, some people like wild subdivisions or something. That’s not really a good point in their case that they gave the personal example that they lied accordingly. But the way you put it is that more of like kind of a. You know, you have to develop like a whole philosophy around the diet. There seem no more reason to eat. A diet that is either digest nor Kṛṣṇa is naturally provided. Tend to refine the philosophies of Egypt.

As I guess.

Because the statistics of eating refined foods. How many of those people are vegetarians? How many of them are good things? They haven’t done any study of particular antibodies. But the main thing is that. I mean, the whole philosophy is we don’t eat. We don’t cook generally unless we’re sick. We don’t cook for ourselves, we cook for fishing. And maybe that sometimes we use more white flour. And some temples I use less white flour. We don’t even use. We generally use gourd indiana. Sugar, there’s all cut with chemicals, but sometimes they use it sometimes. But the prophet, he was indicating that all these things make us more body conscious if you actually get sick and. But as far as like getting into a whole thing over the whole basic idea is we prepare nice different varieties of food stuff for christians. So in the Vedas.

They had type of refined sugar. But a refining was slightly different. Obviously, they refined it to cows don’t. But that. We don’t have any plan. If you want to do some exercise.

Or this or that.

But I am just saying, you know, back so much verse to the whole, you know, just so much inappropriate thing. That you can take Kṛṣṇa Prashada. That gets into the whole thing that you’re just going to eliminate from your devotional service somehow. Basically, I give it preparatory, traditional. What’s.