19791009 Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 4.9.5

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The following is a lecture given by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami Mahārāja on October 9, 1979. The lecture begins with a reading from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 4.9.5.

Nārāyaṇarangading yat Kripa Mahangbandi Sigurund translation by his divine grace at that time, Dhruva Mahārāja became perfectly aware of the vedic conclusion and understood the absolute truth and his relationship with all living entities. In accordance with the line of devotional service to the supreme Lord whose fame is wiped, Juve, who in the future would receive a planet which would never be annihilated even during the time of dissolution, offered his deliberate and conclusive prayers purport. There are many important items to be considered in this verse. First of all, the relationship between the absolute truth and the relative material and spiritual energies is here understood by a student who has complete knowledge of the vedic literature. Dhruva Maharaj never went to any school or academic teacher to learn the vedic conclusion.

But because of his devotional service to the lord, as soon as the lord appeared and touched his forehead with his quan cell, automatically the entire vedic conclusion was revealed to him. That is the process of understanding vedic literature. One cannot understand it simply by academic learning. The Vedas indicate that only to one who has unflinching faith in the supreme Lord as well as in the spiritual master is the vedic conclusion revealed. The example of Juven Maharaj is that he engaged himself in devotional service to the Lord according to the order of his spiritual master, Nārada Muni, as a result of his rendering such devotional service with great determination and austerity. Thus, the personality of God had personally manifested himself before him. Juve was only a child. He wanted to offer nice prayers to the Lord, but because he lacked sufficient knowledge, hesitated.

But by the mercy of the Lord. As soon as the lord’s conshal touched his forehead, he became completely aware of the vedic conclusion. That conclusion is based on proper understanding of the difference between Jiv and Paraharatma, the individual soul and the super soul. The individual soul is forever a servante of the super soul, and therefore his relationship with the super soul is to offer service that is called Bhakti yoga or Bhakti baba. Juba Maharaj offered his prayers to the Lord not in the way of the impersonalist philosophers, but as a devotee. Therefore, it is clearly said here, Bhakti Baba, the only prayers worth offering are those offered to the supreme personality of Godhead, whose reputation has spread far and wide. Dhruba Mahārāja wanted to have the kingdom of his father, but his father refused even to allow him to get on his lap.

In order to fulfill his desire, the lord had already created a planet known as the polestar Dhruvaloka which was never to be annihilated. Even at the time of the dissolution of the universe. Juva Maharaj attained this perfection not by acting hastily, but by patiently executing the order of his spiritual master. And therefore he became so successful that he saw the Lord face to face. Now he was further enabled by the causeless mercy of the Lord. To offer fitting prayers to the lord. To glorify or offer prayers unto the supreme, one needs the lord’s mercy. One cannot write to glorify the Lord unless one is endowed with his causeless mercy.

Thus, in the purport by his divine grace, Sila esi Bhaktivedanta, Swami Prabhupāda Dhruva Maharaj was desirous offering prayers to Kṛṣṇa, but being a small boy of five, he didn’t feel confident that he would be able to properly express himself suitably to glorify the lord. So when Kas manifestation touched him with his corn shell on the head, then Juba Maharaj became conversant with all of the vedic and absolute truths. Actually, according to the sanskrit scholars of India, these verses composed by Juba Maharaj are the most difficult and the finest composition of sanskrit grammar in the whole vedic literature. To show perfect composition of the most difficult type of Sanskrit bracarant or grammar, they give these prints of Dhruva as the example, although he was only a five year old boy.

So the ability to perform any service, any glorification to Kṛṣṇa does not depend one’s material capabilities or material attributes. Rather, it depends upon the blessings, the mercy one gets from guru and Kṛṣṇa. This is a real qualification. The example, of course, is given that the spiritual master of Śrīla bhakti, siddhānta Sahaśrī Thakur, never knew how to read or write. In other words, according to colloquial terms, he was a literary. However, he was fully conversant with the conclusions of all the vedic literature because he was not literate. So he took a very humble attitude and he simply perfected his devotional service. Some people think that he was a bhajananandi. Bhajanandi means someone who simply wants to worship Kṛṣṇa for his own perfection. Actually, that is not the exact position. He had a keen desire to see the whole world.

Ka conscious, therefore, to satisfy that keen desire, because he himself, although he knew all the vedic purports, was not so literate or so capable of expressing in his own idea. He thought Kṛṣṇa sent him Bhakti, Siddhānta, Saraswati Thakur, who he inspired to go out and preach all over to spread this Kṛṣṇa conscious movement and start the brihat Majanga, the bigger mijanga printing and subsequently Sankirtan. So of course, Gorkachore Dasbabaji profile tells the story that he was a very humorous person. He was empowered by his spiritual master. He was very humorous. In India, if anyone has visited, I am sure that Ajutana Masami can tell you. If you go to any public meeting, then everybody wants touch your feet. When Prabhupda first came to India in 1970, at that time I was trying to take photographs of Śrīdhar Prabhupāda.

And while I was standing in the crowd trying to take the photograph, I felt that I was being devoured by piranha fishe who are grabbing my feet. One can easily become sick. All these people, they want Ashurbad, they want the blessing. Like Dhuva maharaj gata, they want the blessing. But they want blessing that I can be nice and strong, that I can have a beautiful wife, that I can have lots of money to enjoy a big house to enjoy a big car to enjoy lots of sense gratification. They don’t want the blessing that I can perfect my pure devotional service to Kṛṣṇa. Therefore, Gorkishore became disgusted that what is the use of going with these people? They’re simply begging me, please, O Babaji, bless me that my son, who’s goddesse terminal cancer will get cured or whatever he had. This is a continuous thing.

They simply want blessing for their material. So he became, what is the use of this asher bod? So he became so disgusted that not one person ever approached him for Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Therefore he became disgusted and went aside. Not that he didn’t want to preach, but the people were so materialistic that he became disgusted. And so he went and sat down right outside the indian outhouse. Public urinal. Public urinal india is not like the public urinal in the Los Angeles International Airport. It stinks. The only sanitation of the pigs, they’d come and clean up. So he was sitting there. No one could stand the smell, so no one would go by. So one very rich man came by. Big Jamundar. Jamindar is like a sub king land collector.

He came by and he begged, my dear Gorkishwar Das Abhijee, please, we’re going to have a Bhagavad class and a Harinam Sankirtan with professional groups. You please come and grace the occasion. So Gord Keshos said, well, I don’t go to these type of social functions. I only go. I don’t go. So you know. No, you must come. You must come. I am sorry, I don’t come. Please, you must come. All right. I will go under one condition. Yes. Yes, yes. Please tell me. You must agree to do whatever I say. Oh, yes. Yes, Babaji Maharaj. Whatever you say, I will do. All right. You promise? Whatever I say, you will do? Yes. Right. Sit down here and chant hare Kṛṣṇa with me. He ran off, so no one wanted the blessing, you see. But Durban Maharaj.

Although he approached Kṛṣṇa thinking that well, if I have a kingdom, if I have all these things, I will be very happy. He was thinking that. But when he saw Narayan, when he saw the beautiful form of the lord. Then he realized I was desiring broken glass. Instead, I have gotten the glittering diamond. A gleaming, effulgent jewel. I don’t want anything but his devotional service. Nothing else. Only I desired other things out of my ignorance and foolishness. So then, of course, he was not able to speak. But when Nayim blessed him, then he could speak actually devotee. Even if he may be a good kīrtana player or a good speaker or a good Sankirtan distributor or expert in any particular service. He realizes himself to be no better than a stone. Without the blessings of Guru and Kṛṣṇa.

Without the blessings of Guru and Kṛṣṇa, we would be reduced to a blabbering idiot if pure vegetables are rolling on the floor without any consciousness. The only difference between a stone and us is Kṛṣṇa has given us the ability to speak. We take it for granted because by karma everyone is given that facility and Kṛṣṇa doesn’t interfere. But actually Kṛṣṇa is giving the facility. Even for the karmis and for the devotees, everything is given by guru and Kṛṣṇa. They are no longer under that. When we take initiation, we are freed from the stringent laws of karma. Then we are put directly under Ka’s personal care. Propha used the example so many times. How a rich son is under the care of the son of a rich father is under the care of the father. Like that we are under the care of Kṛṣṇa.

That sometimes we get put in a very dangerous position. The devotee sees that danger as Kajdenhe. That Kṛṣṇa has come to me in the form of danger to intensify my devotion to him. Kṛṣṇa comes in different forms to see how fixed up the devotee is. As he read this morning or heard this morning. The excerpt from Bhāgavatam on the spiritual master that the pure devotees spiritual master for him being in hell or in heaven, it’s the same thing. The pain of hell or the pleasure of heaven does not interrupt the natural flow of his devotion to Kṛṣṇa. If he’s given the opportunity to enjoy sense gratification apart from what is necessary to keep the body and soul together, he doesn’t want it. He doesn’t have any traction.

And if he’s put in a difficult position, he also simply thinks how to utilize his position to and or preach Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Different devotees materially may be intelligent, maybe more beautiful or less beautiful, more educated or less educated. But the real thing is how surrendered they are to the guru and to Kajden. On a Tulsi plant, there are many leaves, and some of the leaves are big and some are smaller. But does anyone think that when I get my Raj Gula and it’s got a big tulsi on it, and then Ramesh starting, he’s got a ras gula with a small tulsi on it, that Rameshwar’s ras gula with a small tulsi is less sacred because it’s got a smaller tulsi. There’s no difference between big or small tulsi and the consideration of purity. They’re all sacred.

The real evaluation is simply how much one has surrendered his life to carrying out the order of his spiritual master and how much he has implicit faith. In the words of Kṛṣṇa, once one has reached that platform, whether one person is more educated or more beautiful than the other, that consideration has no bearing. That’s only a social function. If we give anyone any credit. Oh, you are a PhD, you are this, you are. That’s simply social convention. The only convention considered in a Vaishnav society is this surrender to guru, spiritual advancement, detachment from material sense, gratification and one’s hospitality to a guest. These are the only things which are observed in Vai society. The other considerations are not considered to be more than a social function.

So Dhruva Maharaj is not greeting the Lord in a social convention that today, brothers and sisters, we have president today, Narayan. And we’d like to give him a vote of thanks for coming. It’s not his mood. He feels a deep devotion to Narayan that he has come to bless me. He is present. What can I do to glorify him? The urge of the devotee. How to glorify ka? How to broadcast his glories everywhere? That is the urge of the devotee. That is his natural inclination. It’s not some ritual, some superficial formality.

It is a deep desire of the heart to do something to glorify, to broadcast the wonderful qualities of Kṛṣṇa to everyone that we see in every pure devotee, the same inclination a Kṛṣṇa himself, when he comes as his devotee, when he comes in the avatar of Kṛṣṇa, Caitanya Vaaprabhu, then he wants the whole world to be delivered by his Sankirtan movement. So he personally showed initially by his own example, for six or eight years, he traveled all over south India, north India to Vrindavan, as he read today, he was in banais. He went to banares to give his goods, but no one wanted. So he was ready to go. But his devotees, they wanted that these people should be delivered. So, to satisfy the desire of his devotees, Lord Shaytan delivered Prakasananda, Saraswati and all his Mayawari sannyāsī followers.

Even Kṛṣṇa may not ordinarily gives mercy. Because of the intense desire of the spiritual master of Ka’s devotees to give the mercy to fallen souls, Kṛṣṇa agrees to give the mercy to someone, even he’s not qualified. One devotee asks Śrīla Prabhupāda that. Śrīla Prabhupāda, you say that due to previous good karmas and previous sukriti in our previous birth, we somehow rather come to you. But I can understand that my whole life I am simply been addicted to sense gratification. I have absolutely no taste for devotion. How is it that I have been included into your and how is it that I have been engaged in your devotional service? How do I have any good fortune from previous lives? And then, see, the robot told them, I have made your good fortune. I have given you a good fortune.

By the mercy of the spiritual master, one can become fortunate. Even he has no other quality. Even he doesnt deserve it. This is how important is the mercy of pure devotees and Kṛṣṇa. Therefore, every preacher, he takes on a compassionate mood. He takes on a compassionate mood, praying to Kṛṣṇa, how can I spread? How can I deliver these fallen souls? How can I give them your holy name? How can they become pure devotees? Because of the devotees compassion, when will these souls be delivered? So, purity, of course, is the force by one’s pure desire, by one’s pure understanding, by one’s pure, a charan or practice of devotional service. Then one captures Kṛṣṇa in his heart. Actually, here the Juba Maharaj is seeing, Nārāyaṇa is standing on his carrier. He’s standing, coming on his carrier. Groot nine. We never see him.

Even he’s not actually doesn’t touch the ground when he comes, usually speaking, except in his holy dhams. Or in his exceptional lilahs, he always is touching his feet to his holy dam or to the lotus or to Garuḍa, that is where he stands. So Kṛṣṇa, putting his impression of his lotus feet and the holy Dhaam, he walks around. So wherever Kṛṣṇa is that is considered the dharm, he brings his dama with him, that’s the only place he stands. So the devotee he wants to invite and to bring Kṛṣṇa to take residence in his full glory, in his heart, in the heart of the devotee.

So to do that, one has to prepare his heart just like the holy Dom Dhruv Maharaj completely purified his heart by following the orders of his spiritual master, by chanting the mantras given by his spiritual master, his heart became purified and the lion was fully manifest in his heart. And when he looked outside and saw the eye, it was the same person he was seeing within, there was no stranger. And so first Kṛṣṇa reveals himself with him. But we want Kṛṣṇa should come in our heart. So naturally speaking, we will want to cleanse the heart just like Lord Caitanya and the Gundi Chamarjanam cleanse. I saw a very nice picture of Śrīla Ramandha cleaning the temple here on the Gundi Chamarjana festival.

It was very ecstatic, throwing buckets of water, this Gundi Chamharjana, their lord Caitanya, first they swept once, picking up all the leaves, branches, everything, then again they swept, then again, after sweeping, they went in every little crack with little nails, little twig, and they picked out all the dust in every crack that not one crack would even have any dust. Then hundred and eight and more buckets of water were all brought, big kulsis, big containers, and completely the temple was cleansed, spotless, even the walls, ceilings, everything. Then it was considered to be a fit place for jagannath to sit like that. Our heart has to be cleansed if we want Kṛṣṇa to be in her heart. If we prepare a very nice garbage pit, will Kṛṣṇa stand on the garbage? The rotting rags, paper stools, refuse, coffee grinds, everything?

He’s going to stand on that pita? Of course not, you can’t even imagine.

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So if we have our heart filled with dirty things, then how Kṛṣṇa will stand there? He says that the Lord, he knows the feelings and the mind of the devotee. Like the aroma of a flower. So you can imagine the aroma coming from material desire. Things like garbage. The Kṛṣṇa can’t personally like to take the smell. So he allows. Vishnu has to as Paramātmā has to undergo that experience. But Kṛṣṇa himself to come there, the heart has to be purified and incarnate. Ramakṛṣṇa come into the heart. So that is what the whole movement of Lord Caitanya is about. Caitamadara Puramahajana, cleansing the heart, taking out all the garbage, taking out all the contamination, taking out all the material desire. Leaving the heart. A pure, clean place for christians to come. The Kṛṣṇa stands in his holy Dha.

He stands in his place that he loves. So therefore one is always meditating in his heart on the holy Dhaam and inviting Kṛṣṇa there to his full surrender to Guru and Kṛṣṇa. His attachment to the Dham, Brunavan, Māyā, poor is full and pure. And his dedication to Guru and Kṛṣṇa is complete. Kṛṣṇa, he resides there in the heart. Once he’s there, then one becomes effulgent, he becomes empowered and he sees Kṛṣṇa always. So this is what Jupiter Mahārāja did. He wanted to see Nirayim. He was looking everywhere. Under every branch, under every stone. Are you nahim? Are you nahim? Are you nahim? We had a play in Calcutta at the Raj yātrā where all the Gurukul boys put on this play. Dhruva Maharaj. So when Dhruva Maharaj was looking, when he was banished from his kingdom, there was one boy searching on them.

Twelve year old boy. He gave his speech. How he was going out. All the devotees in the crowd, all the guests. About 8000 people were sitting. So many cried. So many were crying. Maharaj took his firm determination. I am going to go and find the rayam. The cruel words of my stepmother I have taken. So I am going out. Then there was a little relief that when he was looking then other Gurukul boy came up. Just like a lion came out. Naturally everyone laughed. But Durban Maharaj, he went to the lion. Are you Narayan? That’s what he is. Are you Narayan? Are you Lothi Narayan? Everywhere he went, fearlessly looking because he couldn’t find. When Kṛṣṇa said Narat Muni, the guru gave him the instruction. Worship Tulsi, sit down on the bank of the holy river. Chant this mantra in this way. Worship bathinge.

Following these principles and regulations. Then you will get Narayan very quickly then, ruh Mahārāja. So in the same way what the order of the spiritual master is to the disciples, there’s general and specific orders. These have to be followed, and then one can be assured of reaching success. Thank you. Are there any questions? Time’s up. Well, Soviet Union wishes it could cause more trouble, but the party which is in power in Calcutta today, is more loyal to our big brother of India, China, the marxist party. They believe more in the fanatical takeover by violence, but they compromised because they were not allowed to do that in democratic. So now they’re trying to do it through the constitution. They say that once we get enough popular support, then we will just take over. But right now we have to follow the rules.

And so long as we find the rules, no one can touch us. So now we’re simply building up our organization. The Soviet Union is publishing in every major language india, books and periodicals at throwaway prices. They publish a 96 page magazine called the Soviet in english soviet nation or something like that, and Bengali soviet dress. They have one soviet woman, Soviet nari. Then they have one fortnightly on political issues. There are about 910 different periodicals. One for kids, of course. They show the pictures of the big hefty guys running the caterpillar trucks in the factory, and then the ballerinas and swimmers and the gymnastics. And it’s simply a 10% pure. Everybody smiling halfway. The complete propaganda. They sell this soviet magazine by subscription. They get all the young college students go out.

It’s the most popular thing to be a book distributor for soviet publications. They give 100% commission, 100% commission for distribution. One copy is a rupee each. 96 pays big as life. It costs at least four or rs5 to print it india. And one year is rs10, and three years is rs20. And with three years to get a three year calendar with favorite Christmas scenes of soviet union. And on top of that, I think they give you some other little trinket, like a keychain. If you take a three year subscription, the three year subscription, rs20, the guy that sells it gets rs10. And the distributor who runs all these sales, they get another 25%. So they get two and a half rupees. Seven and a half rupees is sent to Delhi. And I think that’s simply used india for their bureaucracy, their and the advertising.

They advertise in all the major newspapers and billboards all over the cities. Please subscribe to the soviet periodical. So when the boys go door to sell these periodicals, then they try to people say, well, we don’t want to read about. So what about some about our country? What about our culture? Finally, if they act all else, they will listen. For rs20 for three years, you’re going to get 36 issues. These 36 issues, if you sell them to the garbage man, is used paper, you will get rs35 back. So it’s a good investment. You should take this. And anyway, it would be something to read and have around the house and. Well, poor kid, you know, I am a jobless kid. I am going to go, you know, if you don’t get by the paper, I am going to get into politics or something. You know, jobless, unemployed.

So finally, alas, I sent them and everyone you see in all, even our profiles, Kaviraj, he gets it. Everyone gets this. It’s just everywhere. Flooded. Hundreds of thousands of subscriptions. They make very big propaganda. After they did the constitution of the Soviet Union about two years ago, they did a new constitution. Then they had guys selling the copies of the constitution about a medium sized book which cost at least rs3 to print. They’re selling them for 40 paisa, which must have been just the guy’s commission, 40 paisa. On the train from Sheldon to Kṛṣṇagar. The guy, he came up, he had English, Hindi, Bengali, any language you want. First class, foreign white paper, 40 paisa. Nice, big, medium book. And he had his choice. You could have a kid’s book. They sell special children’s books on Lenin and Marx with fold out.

You open the book up and some of the pages that jump out, you know, teddy bears and things. It’s just they have a huge budget. In Calcutta alone. There’s a cultural center, drama center, information center, book center. Then there’s the consulate, then there’s the industrial center, the trade relations. And they have at least twelve to 15 buildings all over the city. Their publishing center is unlimited. How many buildings they have in Calcutta? Everywhere you go, they have a couple of buildings. But it’s not only in Calcutta, actually. They’re spread all. They’re all over India. The. The party called the Communist Party of India. One of their members sits on the Politburo in Russia, but he doesn’t. That party was together with Indira last time.

They’re not very prominent india as much as the party in power in Bengal, which is the CPM, which has gotten greater leanings to China, but pride themselves to be basically an indian version of communism. So they’re complete atheists and their party policy, they have to swear that they don’t believe in any. Of course, the local MLA of Navadiv, when he was going for election, he went to all the temples, you know, Durga, and he was praying to be reelected. But once they get reelected, then they’re officially atheists. But that’s public, but private. They have to do some. The chief minister of Bengal, the Jyoti Bastu, his wife came and took prasad at our temple in Calcutta. She loved the prasada, said she got 50. She got complete satisfaction, and she’s a devotee of a sort.

So when it came time to do Lakshmi Pūjā, to worship Lakshmi, to get some wealth, then the chief minister had to leave his office early to go, and there’s a wild leaving, says, well, you know, my wife said, I have to do Lakshmi Fuji, so I gotta go home. So, I mean, there definitely is. On some of these people, there’s a little dual standard, but officially they’re atheists. Some are actually downright demons, and some of them are a little bit superficial in their real folly of communism, but they’re very expert at exploiting, as are all politicians in the world today, apart from the Soviets. Propaganda. The Christians have got very big propaganda. The Roman Catholic Church alone has a yearly budget of $112 million to convert the heathen Hindus into theistic Christianity. Anyone who becomes a Christian gets a pig and a chicken.

A pig and a chicken in a house gets a medical insurance policy that he can get free treatment in the christian hospital and he can send his kid to the christian schools. But even in spite of that, they’re not getting so much headway amongst the civilized, more educated type of caste Hindus. But they’re getting very rapid progress in the poverty stricken tribal areas. We have opened our village preaching in the tribal areas of Orissa, where there is a very big christian preaching. And in fact, in some of the villages, the Christians are in the majority. We did one program which was so successful that the Christians threatened the lives of the Hindus, that if you don’t stop this program, these hare Kṛṣṇa were going to kill you, burn your houses down.

50 people came forward and said, we want to do a transfer back to Hinduism from Christianity. They do a massive over there. They convert. Say a man has got some enterogastritis, he’s vomiting blood, he’s got an ulcer, he’s going to die if he doesn’t get treatment. He doesn’t have the money for an operation to take him to the hospital. The doctor said, I am sorry, you’re going to die anyway. There’s no room in the hospital. It’s only for Christians. Then the man said well I am a Hindu. Well I am sorry. If you want to become a Christian of course we do have the facility. Then we can immediately let you in and treat you. You will probably definitely live. If you don’t of course convert then we cannot allow you. But of course you will certainly die. But don’t feel that we’re pressuring you or anything.

It’s completely voluntary. There’s no other hospital within 50 miles. You got 3 hours to live. Take your stories. So then he takes the man in the next room there they got a little, you know cross set up everything throw a little water on him change his name from Gopal Das to John, Richard, Phillip or something and then take him in and then give him a sugar pilly. Just had a bellyache and that thing is going on all the time. Then when they get this majority then the. I mean they’re so enthusiastic. One has to give them credit. Of course bhakti hit the nail on the head. All of them are paid. I wondered why these people are so fanatic. They go out there and they really go and they all for many hours they preach and they do.

I mean what some places what they do they go into a region where the people are simply living in the forest and they only don’t wear even only either a copen or no clothes at all. Just the jungle people. What we know is the Adivasis or aborigines they have a spoken language. There’s no written language. It is heebie Jibi language. And then just a complete. There’s only maybe 5000 of them. They will go in there. They will first of all teach the people how to wear little choli and then put a skirt around them. Then they all take the language and if it doesn’t have any written language they will make a grammar for it put it in english script, make a language. Make the language practically for them make a grammar, put the script in it, put it in a script.

Start a school, teach all the people the script. Then print a Bible in that language and to give them all Bibles and make them Christian. And this way they have so many languages, every tribal language india practically they have already translated the Bible. I was going to say Bhagavad Gītā. I mean a hopeful thing. I wish we have now the Bible. Some of our books are being translated into these languages. Kasai Golaidhennae, Tibetan and Nepali of course is a much bigger language with about 60 million people speaking it but apart from that, they’re very. Their propaganda is very much expanded in certain areas and the communists in certain others. In Orissa, there’s a trouble that. What happens is that say there’s a majority of christians in the area.

They will take a tribal who has not yet committed himself and then take him and they will dump him in the river. They will dunk his head down like a dunking stool. He starts to drown. They will pull his head up. Have you seen Jesus? Down again. Run. Have you seen Jesus? I didn’t see Jesus, darling. Again. Finally, you see, I saw Jesus. I saw Jesus. All right, now you’re Christian. You have seen Jesus. This is why there was this bill introduced in the parliament. No forceful conversion, no coercion, no bribes, no this. And then all the christians were making marches. The Delaware didn’t mention any particular religion. It just said no by force, by a coercion, by bribe, by this, by that. No conversion. And so they did a big march and said, no, this is going against us. I mean, they’re doing all these things.

And the main thing they do is that they profusely spend their money and they get very cheap. They even admit these are rice converts. They’re not serious converts, but they have the big schools and the next generation. They put their hope in those that this is our real christian. These are. And all the. I was on the airplane with one man from Karela. They gave his wife, family a nice three bedroom apartment, refrigerator. He’s got his private car. He gets rs2000 a month, which is. Which is, india. The same salary that a deputy secretary of the government of India gets. It’s a secretary that a junior executive would get if he was a professional executive in a company there. Apart if he wasn’t a partner or director. Of course, apart from under the table, what they get.

So, I mean, they all get very big salaries and they go around and they have a quota. They have to make so many converts per month. That is, that they go everywhere. They go into colleges, they give free books out. They got all free literature. So when we go out and sell books, why are you giving out? The communists give out free literature. The christians are giving out free literature. Guido press gives out dirty literature. Why you want to sell the literature? Everywhere we go we hear the same thing. Of course, then we don’t listen. We still. So the thing. We will take the book, but why do we have to pay for it? Everyone else is giving out free. So there’s a tremendous propaganda because everyone is reading the literature is there. Therefore people should. The whole country. Gradually their whole state becomes communist.

The thing is that, yeah, they’re paid 2000 a month, 5000 dependent. Yeah, they’re paid. If you get a good salary, then you become dedicated for the salary. Look at the guys working for American Airlines, right? They’re paid. So they want to always go and smash the devotees to the saving books because they’re Sudras. When a Śūdra works for his boss and the boss says Sigim Faygo Fido, then he goes and wants to smash him. So these people are all. They don’t have any higher spiritual values. They don’t have any understanding or any de love for Jesus like that. They’re just fanatics. They’re paid. Go out and make converts. Kṛṣṇa is a Devachi. You tell all the people all these blasphemous things. They just go and say.

The worst thing about Kṛṣṇa, one of the questions was that this father, one of the questions passed up this father. He says that Kṛṣṇa is a debauchery and a prophetess. So what do you have to say about that? They say all these things. Of course, we defeat them very easily. But that’s if they don’t even know we exist. They’re told that the whole world is christian. Look at America. Big cars, big jets. If you want to be successful in life, you must become a Christian. India is a poor country, it has nothing. Why are you staying Hindu? You become Christian and become happy. And just to help you along, take a pig, take a chicken, take a house, take a job in our machine shop. They have whole communities.

They’re building a big community in Kṛṣṇagar that you can go as you’re driving to my airport. This whole community, so many houses they’re building and machine shops there. They have a very big farm. I visited their farm. They have tractors and everything. The brother Jacob took me around to their pig farm and I told that, you know, these animals are very dirty. He says, no. Who said that pigs are dirty? This is a misconception. This is a dirty lie. Pigs are the cleanest animal in the world. I have proof. And he showed me. He had this huge pig which were reserved for the bishop. And inside they have a little hut, little 4ft high, little like dog house where they go inside and outside they had a little porch and they go out, you know, snorting and doing their natural thing.

So he pointed out to me, look at in his hut, not one stool. They’re so pure that they go outside their house and pass stool. They never pass in where they sleep. Therefore, they’re the cleanest. Look at cows, horses, wherever they stand, they drop it. But these animals, so clean, they go outside and drop. Therefore they’re the cleanest animals. This was the guy’s video. He’s worshipping the pigs. Anyway, the point is that’s why he said that started the Iskan food relief in different. He said that if we distribute prashadam every 10, if we have a prasadam distribution center all over India, the whole India will be so grateful to Kṛṣṇa conscious, they will all become Kanchas, fully dedicated devotees. And he said that a broad propaganda distribution of literature should be done.

Actually, it’s very necessary in all the languages to have very inexpensive, apart from there’s a 510 percent very wealthy class. They need first class books, but the 90% under the poverty line, they can’t afford more than a ripped shirt to wear on their back. They require inexpensive literature. And then there can be a very big revival, very big. The thing is that what we do, I have a program when I get, whenever I have any personal money, and I go into villages and where I see that they are very eager. Like in one village, they wanted to chant, but the thing was, no one was coming. There were three devotees who were chanting morning and no one would come. They said if we could just have a microphone, then we could attract so many people in the village.

So I purchased them an amplifier and a microphone, said they had to go and collect the money and get the speaker. So they went and they collected a few paisa from all the villages and added up they had got rs100 together and purchased a loudspeaker horn. And I gave them an amp and the mic. So then when they sat down with the microphone, india, nobody has a microphone but a radio of India star or a professional, you know, rental. It’s very rare. So everyone in the whole village all coming around, they have time for Kirita in front of the mic. Hare, Hare Kṛṣṇa. And it’s all chanting every day. And then they’re doing that week after week, month after. Finally even the thing breaks down. They go on, they get into it.

But initial, it’s a great impetus, and the whole village is blasted out. They love to, you know, 04:00 in the morning mic over the whole village, they love it. So anyway, there’s a demand that people want Kant much more than they want these things, just that nobody’s giving them Kant. Everyone’s giving these things. And we’re going around with our small Sakurchan party selling rs1 books at 70 price a cost. We sell 100 in a day each. Man, the people are so stingy. They look at the paper, they practically bite the paper to see what is the quality. They read half the book first, see whether it’s good enough for them. I mean, you have to stand there, give ten books out to people, read half the book, feel the paper, feel, then think whether it’s really worth it.

Is it really, is it the proper price? And then after he goes to a whole thing, then he pulls out his rupee, kind of hesitates for a moment, feels it, gives the book back, walks the way, comes back, takes the book back, gives the rupee, takes it home, rolls it up. I mean, it’s like a whole thing like that. For rs1, each distributor with a FIFA rupee, put it in London special, get it hot off. The last time, get it. People just pack up, wow, three for rupee. It was just hand over fist. They’re just coming up. So each distributor, three rs400 a day. That’s why, you know, that’s why we’re doing 60,000 points. But now we have to roof 200,000 BBC debt.

Our collectors didn’t collect enough money, but so anyway, I mean, we had, I mean, each distributor was doing 900,000 books a day. It was fun while it lasted. Does it answer your question, Vankirtan? General key and feels it, gives the book back, walks away, comes back, takes the book back, gives the rupee, takes it home, rolls it up. I mean, it’s like a whole thing like that and.