19820506 Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 7.8.17

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The following is a lecture given by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami Mahārāja on May 6, 1982 – in New Hastinapura, Washington, D.C., USA. The lecture begins with a reading from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 7.8.17.

Canto 7, chapter 8, text 17. Adrian is that not a child? The words of his own servant. The words of his own servant. Who had said that his Lord is present everywhere.

Who had said that His Lord is present everywhere.

The optim. The provision. The provision. Among the living entities and elements.

Among the living entities and elements.

Of himself.

Of Himself.

Wonderful.

Wonderful.

Taking in the pillar. In the pillar. Within the assembly.

Within the assembly.

An animal.

An animal. A human being.

By his divine grace, to prove that the statement of his servant Prahlad Mahārāja was substantial. In other words, to prove that the supreme Lord is present everywhere, even within the pillar of an assembly hall, the supreme personality of God had Hari exhibited a wonderful form never before seen. The form was neither that of a man nor that of a lion. Thus the Lord appeared in his wonderful form in the assembly hall to prove that the statement of his servant that the statement of his servant was substantial.

Was substantial.

In other words. In other words, to prove that the.

Supreme Lord to prove that the supreme.

Lord is present everywhere.

Is present everywhere.

Even within the pillar. Even within the pillar of an assembly hall.

Of an assembly hall.

The supreme personality of God in Harith.

The supreme personality of God in Hareem.

Exhibited a wonderful form.

Exhibited a wonderful form.

Never before seen.

Never before seen.

The form was neither that of a man the form was neither that of a man nor that of a lion.

Nor that of a lion.

Thus the Lord appeared in his wonderful form in the assembly hall.

Thus the Lord appeared in his wonderful.

Form in the assembly hall, purported by his divine grace. When Hiranyakasi Poo asked Prahlad Mahārāja, where is your Lord? Is he present in this pillar? Prahlad Maharaj fearlessly replied, yes, my Lord is present everywhere. Therefore, to convince Hiranyakashi Poo that the statement on Prahlad Maharaj was unmistakably true, the Lord appeared from the pillar. The Lord appeared as half lion and half man, so that Hiraṇyakaśipu could not understand whether the great giant was a lion or a human being. To substantiate Prahlāda’s statement, the Lord proved that his devotee, as declared in Bhagavad Gītā, is never vanquished. Prahlāda Maharaj’s demonic father had repeatedly threatened to kill Prahlad. But Prahlāda was confident that he could not be killed since he was protected by the supreme Lord. By appearing from the pillar, the Lord encouraged His devotees, saying in effect, don’t worry, I am present here.

By manifesting his form as Nashinghadeva The Lord also preserved the truth of Lord Brahma’s promise that Hiranyakashipu was not to be killed by any animal or any man. The Lord appeared in a form that could not be said to be fully a man or a lion. Thus end purport by his divine grace. Śrīla AC so today is the most auspicious day of the 14th day in the moon cycle, lunar cycle celebrated for the appearance of Lord Man. Shinhan Day. We can see here that to satisfy the words, the promise, his devotee Lord Narcingha, they have appeared from this pillar. That means as long as the devotee is speaking authorized words authorized in the scripture and the devotee is in fact in sincerity repeating those words, the Lord, he ensures that they do come true. Prahlad Muhar said that the Lord is everywhere.

He had absolute faith in that. So when he ran, the Akashi who challenged that is your Lord here in the pillar. Let me see him smashing the pillar. Then there was such a tumultuous sound that the whole universe was vibrating everywhere. The sound in the ether was all pervasive. And great demigods, they were afraid. You can imagine what the situation was in lower planetary systems when even great demigods who are normally practically fearless because hardly anything can come to them, they were also afraid. So the Lord, he is all powerful. He’s calling causing fear in the heart of everyone except for Prahlad Maharaj. Prahlad Maharaj was not afraid of Lord Nave. This was the peculiar relationship that Prahlad had with Lord Nasingide. That even Lord Nur Shingadev was so ferocious, so dangerous, so angry. For lot he was not afraid.

Others, they were a bit afraid of such a ferocious form. For the materialist Kṛṣṇa in his different forms, as fearful, especially in his form as death. The materialist is afraid of death. Or even they try to ignore it when it finally comes. It’s a fearful, unwelcome, frightening situation. But for the devotee, if Kṛṣṇa comes in the form of death to take the devotee, for the devotee, it’s not a hopelessly fearful situation. Rather, the devotee fixes his mind on Kṛṣṇa and steps from the material world into his spiritual, into the spiritual world, into the spiritual existence. Has he already practiced? Prahlad Maharaj was always chanting the holy name. So he had nothing to fear from the material world. If we also follow in the footsteps of Prahlad and try to chant always the Holy name, remember Kṛṣṇa always, then also we won’t have any fear.

You know that story of The Brāhmaṇa who came to see Caitanya Mahāprabhu when he was just a Bera boy. And every time he was offering the Prashanam, the Brāhmaṇa would come out. I mean the Lord Chaitanya would come out and consume it. Finally, two times he was frustrated. A third time he was sitting down in his meditation. It was already midnight. They were calling for Lord Maharaj to come. Gopal, he said, gopal, deity, please come take prasad. Then Lord Caitanya again came out and started eating the offering. No, no. You’re eating the Lord’s boga. You’re again ruining the offering. And then Lord Caitanya, he revealed himself as Gopāla wield himself in his six armed form. So there. Sometimes it’s described that the Lord has shown two six armed forms.

One of the six armed forms of course we know is Brahma Kṛṣṇa and Lord Caitan. They combine the other two arms with Muralibadan Kṛṣṇa. Two arms are Kamandalu Danda Caitanya Mahāprabhu and other two arms are Narasiṁhadeva. This is a rare form of Shadroj. Now this six arm form of Nishing of Lord Caitanya. One of the hands is like this and the other hand is. One is like this and one is like this. Something like that. So why the two hands are differently placed? Can anyone sing? One hand is destroying you talking about Lord Shing. One hand is destroying many Kashi Poo. And the other is offering benediction to Prahlad. One hand he’s patting Prahlad on the head, the other hand he’s ripping out the innards of Ramnya Kashiv.

So this form Nurringhadev of course is especially kind to the devotees who have given their lives to preaching the holy name of Prahlad Maharaj was always chanting the holy name of Kṛṣṇa. He was preaching even to his students who were demons, demon children. He was preaching to them and he convinced them to practice Brahmacharya, to practice chanting the holy name of Kṛṣṇa. So Prahlad Maharaj, he was a great powerful Mahabhāgavata preacher. He was concerned how to deliver the fallen souls up to his spiritual master Nārada Muni. When the Lord asked him that what do you want in benediction from me? Then Prahlad said that what do I want? I am not come to you for any business deal. I have not come to you to get something in exchange for my devotional service. I simply want that my service may continue uninterruptedly. Even Life after life.

This says Caitanya Mahāprabhu has advised his followers in the fourth verse of the we shouldn’t desire Dhanam material wealth, najanam material followers, Nasundari or beautiful women or sense gratification of the opposite sex. We should simply. We shouldn’t follow in the footsteps of Caitanya Mahprabhu. He didn’t even desire liberation. He wanted to serve the Lord even birth after birth. Serve the Lord birth after birth in pure devotional service. You see, just as a lion picks out the lion cub in the mouth, the tiger cub is picked up by the tiger mother in the mouth. The same mouth of course is capable of ripping apart deer animal man. In Bengal, in the Sunnirbaum jungle area where the Ganges splits into thousands and thousands of mouths and there are so many thousands of little islands. And there some of the islands are completely submerged during high tide.

And then they come visible during low tide. Ebb tide, that’s called. Yeah, ebb tide. And some of the islands are always above the water. There are the Great Bengal Tiger, the Royal Bengal Tiger, which grows sometimes up to 12ft long. They have a called Project Tiger. There are so many tigers that are still alive, a couple hundred. They want to protect them from the extinction. And sometimes though the tigers get out of hand and all the people in those areas, they have to keep high power rifle or shotgun or something in their house. Because sometimes the tigers turn man eater. And then they finish off so many men, 5, 10 men before they can be stopped. Sometimes there are Tapamoy and Gundab and he saw Sundarbaum boys. He’s seen the tigers many times fired to keep them away.

These tigers are very dangerous lions that can be extremely dangerous. But here we see that hiranyakashipu, I mean in Lord Machingha Devī has assumed this ferocious aspect. Half lion, half man. Of course he’s not an ordinary lion or man. He’s purely transcendental. But he has assumed this form. But just as the form is fearful for everyone, it is not fearful for his own children. So who is the Lord’s children? His devotees. Kṛṣṇa is not fearful to his devotees, but he is fearful to the non devotees. Especially in forms like Narasiṁhadeva. So we should be very careful to be the favorable side of Lord Nash. We should be very careful to always be his devotee. Sometimes people want protection but they don’t want to actually be the devotee. This is dangerous.

I know that when were traveling in Bengal, we met one Pujari who was worshipping a beautiful Nar Shinha shali ground. The shali brown was just a big shaligram. Must have been at least 4 inches in diameter or 5 inches in diameter. Very, quite big. And it had a wide gaping mouth with a double chakra top and bottom, and with gold streaks and other signs. So the Pujari. I asked whether we could get the worship of the deity, and he said yes. He said that because I am a grihasta and I am not following everything as perfectly as possible, I am very afraid of worshipping Nashing Day. He said that Machin Day worship has to be done very carefully and following the rules and regulations very strictly. Otherwise he can become quite angry even with his own Gujarati. This was with the Brāhmaṇa said.

So he was considering that it might better to have us taken deity. So the worship of different forms of the Lord has got different aspects. Of course, if a devotee superior devotees tried sincerely the Lord text, when we’re serving Lord Masinghadev or other Vishnu Mūrti, then one has to be very careful, because that worship is in the mood of awe and reverence in general. Prahlad Maharaj was of course, a rare exception. Although on reverence was there. There was a special intimacy in the devotional service. But we saw, like in the other demigods, those who were worshipping Kṛṣṇa for their own material benefit. Not the pure devotees, but the Swakam devotees. When they saw Lord Mashing today, they were very frightened. Even Lakshmi Devī tried to come forward to speak something. But she was also astonished by the angry mood that Nashinghedev was in.

How his devotee had been tortured, how Prahlāda Maharaj had been tortured by his father. Simply because he was a devotee of the Lord, not for any other reason. He wasn’t a bad boy. He didn’t misbehave. His only misbehavior was he was always worshiping Kṛṣṇa. This was his disqualification. This is the nature of demons that they consider one to be disqualified simply because he’s a devotee of God. There are certain countries in the world where it is technically illegal or it is frowned upon. It’s considered to be a disgrace if you are a devotee of God. So that is the nature of demonic civilization. But even the devotees who were more directed, not in pure devotion or devotees who had a different relationship with nushing at that time, they could not approach Him. They were so angry.

It was only Prahlad who could approach Lord Moshe. So the devotee who approaches the Lord pure devotional service. He can easily approach the Lord. For other devotees, it’s difficult. Even the demigods, they sometimes conceive Vishnu, but that’s very rare. Generally speaking, they have to go to Brahma. Brahma sits by the side of the milk ocean. He prays and by the side of the milk ocean in his meditation. Then he gets a message in his heart from the Kiridaksha Vishnu. And then sometimes the Kiridaksha Vishnu descends in different forms. Rla Prabhupāda would traditionally discuss with us. But during these sacred days of different Vishnu avatars like Ramana dwarf.

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But when he comes in his original form or his expansion, this Leela expansion, Ramachandra or the original form as Kṛṣṇa, this is something more special because so many different pastimes are manifested, so many additional qualities are manifested. And devotees may associate with the Lord in different moods. In the past, our Lord Ramachandra, he accepted one wife in the pastime of Kṛṣṇa, of course, he accepted thousands and thousands of queens. Then he had Gopīs, he had mother and father. He had his friends and servants. Thus there was a variety of relationships that one could reciprocate with the Lord. That is the nature of the original form that one can associate with the Lord in all of the five Rasas. But with Lord Nadev it is limited how many Rasas.

For instance, it’s very hard to be in a friendly relationship with Lord Nashinghadev or a parental relationship in a particular incarnation because of his mood. But the devotees who are worshiping him in the mood of servitude, therefore he satisfied he can fulfill their desires. So when Lord Nishingene appeared after he finished off Ranyakashi, he went to Nahudwi. There Nabadvip, at a place called Npoli, he rested. And the demigods, they all came in the form of villagers on a nearby hill called Devapuli. In this way there were seven hills called Saptathila. One hill was for Indra, one was for Yamaraj. They had seven different hills and they were residing there with their associates. And they would come as villagers and were able to serve Lord N. Because of his merciful nature and the influence of the and the auspicious place of Navadvi Dam.

The Lord, he was so charitably disposed to these demigods that he allowed them to serve him in that intimate way. So the holy Dhams, they are eternal, they are permanent. Whenever the material world is created, you will find that these holy Dhams are there. And even when the material world is destroyed, the eternal aspect of the holy Dham, it is always present. It is always present. The holy Dhaam in the spiritual sky has its counterpart in the material world. And the Dham in the material world is only superficially may appear to be under the laws of this material world. But in reality that is just a thin hairline covering. Actually, the holy Dharmas are directly under the spiritual potency. They’re under the chit Shakti or the spiritual potency of the Supreme Personality of God.

So this particular place in Navadvdam is permanently a place of Lord Nadev’s pastimes. After that there was a devotee who wanted to have the darshan of Lord Nashingha Dave. He meditated, he worshipped and finally in a dream Lord Nasingadeva revealed to him that he was in this pond, in this lake. So then he looked in the lake and there he found the Lord Nashinya Dev deity. That Lord Nashimi Dev has been worshipped since the Satya Yuga, millions of years old deity. Not too far in the past that deity was in a jungle and the devotee could only go there during the daytime because at night there were so many tigers and so many pastimes with these deities. So the Lord, he may sometimes come in his original full glory, full potency.

Just like Lord Shringadeva came destroyed here on the Kashipu, he also comes in his archae Vijra form. The arch of Ygrava form also has got pastimes, has got qualities, has got so many different devotees who he gives his mercy to. Although the Lord in his Archa vigra form, in his worshipable deity form is present, visible to our, even our material eyes, appearing to be maybe to some materialist in a stone or as a some metal or some other form. Actually the Lord. You also have power failures here, a lot of power failures here. We’re taking on the mood. That’s what the government said. Well yeah, private company, there’s power players here just like india. So I mean anytime the wind blows different part, it blows out the license like a candle. It’s not windy today. Well, even though it’s not wind.

So the nature of the worship of deity of the Lord is that it’s called Leela Voichitra. He has got, each deity has got different pastimes, different Leelas. Although Nasinghadev is one, his deities are one. Yet each deity at a different place has got different pastimes, different mood. Similarly, other deities in this temple, their mood may be different than a deity in another temple. You see, they will have their own pastimes. That is the difference. So india there’s some very sacred and very ancient temples of Lord Nasingde. This one temple, I believe it’s in Andhra Pradesh that the devotees come from far and wide to offer the Lord a type of gur and water drink.

He’s very thirsty all the time, offer one big cup and they put it down the deity’s mouth literally and it goes into the deity and they can hear this and then they hold the thing and it’s thrown back out with Only half a cup. And that is given back to the devotee as a prashad. You get one cup and the Lord drinks half and gives you back. Never heard of that. You had some of that truce? No. All my Sankirtan devotees in South India, when they come out, they always stop there. But they don’t ever think that they could bring me a little bottle. I normally don’t get time to go to temples outside my zone. I still haven’t even seen Tirupati yet. It’s not my zone. Then there’s another temple, of course, that’s just bordering Orissa.

I think Anurādhārishi may have even visited that one. I am not sure. The one in Visakhapatnam, the big Nya temple there, Nsinga Deva is covered all year long. Because there the Lord is in his mood that he’s in the mood of just ripping up Hivan Nikashi. And so he’s always so hot that they keep him the whole year covered with about 2 inches of sandalwood to cool them down. And only once a year, maybe it’s on this day. I believe it might be on this day or once a year they take off the sandalwood and all the devotees come and they can have a darshan of the actual mūrti without sandalwood. And then the next day they cover him up again. It’s a very. Lord Shaitan Mahāprabhu visited all of these temples.

And of course there’s one more temple up in the hill where he washed his hands after he killed. Rendez kum there. All the rocks are red. Remember one time some devotees to come around and give people the red rocks from that pond. So apparently I have heard that Hirane Kashiku was born in Pakistan. I don’t know much more about Hiranyakashiku history. Of course he became so powerful that he. Even the demigods, they were frightened by Hiranikashi demons. Sometimes they can do some big tapasya. They can get some power. They can have their time to show off. But in due course, ultimately the insurmountable time Kala, the form of Kṛṣṇa. As time finishes off all of these demons. Even here on Nikashi, we made so many plans how he would survive death. I won’t die by day and night.

I won’t die killed by animal or by a human being or by demigod. I won’t die by any weapon. So on and so forth. He made so many plans how he would avoid death. I can’t help but reminded of this one recent story. One of our famous American demons who doesn’t believe in the existence of God, who simply believes, or believed anyway, that just science and man’s own ability, evolution, all these things are the only absolute. That’s our Walt Disney. So he made a plan that since there’s no God, and since eventually we will be able to find out how to make the body even after death, how to just adjust it and make the chemical situation again so that it will operate.

So he had his body put in a deep freeze, as far as I understand, so that he would be preserved, so that when the scientists figured out how to create life, then he could be rejuvenated. So what happened, of course, was that when they did this, when it came up to the inheritance case, someone raised the point that, well, he may come back someday. He was already dead. But, well, he’s in the deep freeze. And when they decided to come back, he may claim, well, give me my money, give me my property. So like this, it was creating some kind of controversy. Millions and millions of dollars couldn’t be decided. And so one day, one of his relatives pulled the plug. He thought out, started to decompose. It’s all now irreparable.

So like this, the demons, they always make some plan, but they can never succeed, even today. Recently, one of the first ladies spent. It was a big thing india and the third world countries like Latin America. She spent $25,000 to have wrinkles pulled out of her face. We read that one of the first ladies of America, one of the wives of the president, spent $25,000, $18,000 having a facelift. They had to pull out the wrinkles like some plastic surgery. It would last for three years, they guaranteed. And after that it would start to sag again, but for a little bit of time. So, you know, India, there’s two and a half, you know, two lakhs of 200,000 rupees. What an average person could make in about 1,000 months of work you’re spending on, you know, having the wrinkles gone for three years.

So it was a big thing. But after all, I mean, although you can make some little temporary adjustment. But then after that, again, time has its toll. So in the Kṛṣṇa book, it describes that Devakī was afraid of Kaṁsa, that Kaṁsa would come and kill Kṛṣṇa, hurt her son. He would come and further put them in difficulty. And Kaṁsa was afraid of Kṛṣṇa, Devakī was afraid of Kaṁsa was afraid of Kṛṣṇa. So this example rla Prabhupāda gave that the demon they’re afraid of death. They’re afraid of Kṛṣṇa in his form of death. But otherwise, you see, they don’t have any respect for Kṛṣṇa. But they only have this fear that is the ultimate God realization of the demons when he comes in the form of death.

When Kṛṣṇa entered in the arena in Mathurā and comes to saw, he saw that here is my bed. When Devakī saw, Kṛṣṇa saw here Kṛṣṇa is my son. Because Devakī couldn’t see, was locked up. But Emi Yaśodā Sana. So Devakī, however was afraid of Kaṁsa. The devotees also have a healthy fear of this material world. They have a fear of becoming absorbed in an enjoying mood. They don’t want. The devotees do not want to in any way forget Kṛṣṇa. So they’re afraid in this respect that they may not. Just as Kṛṣṇa said here Prahlad Maharaj said. My dear Lord. O Supreme Personality of Godhead. Because I was born in an atheistic family, I am naturally attached to material enjoyment. Therefore, kindly do not tempt me with these illusions.

I am very much afraid of material conditions and I desire to be liberated from materialistic life. It is for this reason that I have taken shelter of your lotus feet, O my worship. O Lord. Because the seed of lusty desires which is the root cause of material existence is within the core of everyone’s heart. You have sent me to this material world to exhibit the symptoms of a pure devotee. Otherwise, O my Lord. O Supreme Instructor of the entire world. You are so kind to your devotee that you could not induce him to do something unbeneficial for him. On the other hand, one who desires some material benefit in exchange for devotional service cannot be your pure devotee. Indeed, he is no better than a merchant who wants to profit from your service. Profit in exchange for service, O my Lord.

I am your unmotivated servant and you are my eternal Master. There is no need of our being anything other than master and servant. You are naturally my master and I am naturally your servant. We have no other relationship, O my Lord. Best of the givers of benediction. If you at all want to bestow a desire benediction, a desirable benediction upon me, then I pray from your Lordship that within the core of my heart there be no material desires. So the devotee is afraid, not of Kṛṣṇa, afraid of getting these material desires. We should know that just as Devakī was afraid of Kamsat, we should be afraid of material desires in the heart. These material desires, you see, they can destroy our pure Devotional service. We should be very careful about material desires. Because Prahlad was a pure devotee, had no material desires.

Therefore his memory, his consciousness, everything was perfect. He never forgot Kṛṣṇa at any moment. Even when he was being held over the boiling oil and he was being said, now you give up this Kṛṣṇa. Now what do you have to say before I throw you in the oil? What did Prahlad say? We’re just swimming. As if it was a swimming pool in Nuha’s dinner. So he was for remembering Kṛṣṇa, even he could have had the opulence. Hiranyakashipu was the he had defeated Indra. He had the opulence of the whole universe. Prahlad wasn’t interested. His father tried his best to teach him material desire. But Prahlad resisted. Therefore Prahlad could see the Lord. Therefore he could remain always under the Lord’s shelter.

Why do we think or why should we be so careless as to allow ourselves to think that we can harbor material desires in our heart and not be in a dangerous position? We should be very careful not to think like that if you study. Just like Prahlad Maharaj, he was taught by Narala Muni when he was in the womb of his mother. But his mother also heard the same lessons. But afterwards, Prahlad, he remained in pure devotional service. But his mother, she was engaged in her ordinary materialistic activities. He forgot the instructions of Narana Muni. So whether man or woman, what if one again after hearing good instructions, doesn’t follow them, doesn’t remember them, engages in materialistic activity. Then one again gets wrapped up into the material world.

But if one is very careful to remember the instructions of the scripture of the spiritual master and meticulously keeps the heart pure from any material desires, thoughts may come up in our mind. Let me enjoy this. What about this? What other thoughts may come but they’re pushed out. These are simply the residual effect of my being in this material world for so many countless births. But I do not identify with these materialistic thoughts. My only desire is to be the servant of the servant of Kṛṣṇa. Gopīvarthapadakamalay. We have to be very careful to keep out of our heart materialistic desires which are just like little hivanyakashi pus. Little demons that will destroy our devotional mood, will destroy our devotional attitude. And then as a result, then we become instead like a businessman.

We can’t help but ask Kṛṣṇa in exchange for our devotional service that we get this or that or some other thing. The thing is that it’s described that when a devotee is going back to the spiritual sky, sometimes he is given a. What’s known as a Pradarshan, he’s given a tour on the way up of heavenly planets. Satya Loka, then Shiva Loka, then the Brahma Jyoti. Like that. So if a devotee has got a little desire in his heart to enjoy material life, then as one’s going up, even in this world, if one is already attacked by material design, then when you’re going up and there you see the heavenly planets with all the apsaras, the society girls. Even here we’re agītāted by the opposite sex so much.

What to speak of there, when everything is just at the ideal situation, there are the women, they are said they all have silk scented bodies. In the hot weather, the bodies are cool. In the cold weather, they’re hot. When we hear the ankle bells, just like those great yogis that heard the ankle bells and fellows down, then how is a person going to resist unless we meticulously take out all the materialistic desires. Then you go up and you see, oh, here’s all the. Here’s all the yogis flying around with their mystic powers. In the Siddha Loka, the devotee who has not meticulously kept his heart pure, he will be attracted. I heard that one time, Śrīla Prabhupāda commented that most of his disciples would be going to the heavenly planets, that they were not desiring pure devotional service.

I didn’t directly hear, I just heard it. I don’t know if it’s true actually, but I heard it very secondhand. So I imagine that devotees, they came, but they wanted a comfortable life or they wanted. They had some desire, they wanted some relief. But to meticulously take out material desires from the heart, this Prahlad was able to do. Sanātana Goswami describes that one devotee was going, he went out of the material world. He just hesitated in Brahma Joni, suddenly he was already half merged. Hare Kṛṣṇa, why not? If you hesitate. What’s this? You have to go on. You can’t stop anywhere along the way. Oh, this looks pretty nice. That’s it. Your desire. If your desire. Oh, what about this problem says sometimes the yogis, they get liberation.

But first they want tour all the planets in the material world just to see the Lord’s creation. But all these are delays. So the pure devotee, he is offered sometimes by the Lord these things, but he doesn’t accept. See, when you’re in the heavenly palace again you have to come down. Even you’re in the Brahmaloka again, you have to come down. Dhruva Maharaj, he was desiring material opulence. So when he even saw Kṛṣṇa, he had to spend as a king 36,000 years. We have to be careful not to harbor material desires. We may just keep all this one material desire. So then we have to stay in the material world. We have to stay in some material consciousness to it enjoy that.

Of course, if someone has enough devotional assets, then after that material desire is satisfied, then one can again attain the original position in Kṛṣṇa service. And the other point is, if you have any material desire by worshiping Kṛṣṇa, you can have all those desires completely satisfied. It’s very easy to get material satisfaction, to get material birth in a heavenly planet for worshiping Kṛṣṇa. But it’s considered to be a big loss one can easily achieve. There was a devotee banana salesman Śrīdhar. When he was called over to see Lord Caitanya, he was offered by Lord Caitanya, take mystic power. I want to give you mystic powers. I don’t want any mystic powers. He used to always give Lord Caitanya bananas and vegetables. Every day Lord Shaitanya would go and try to take from him bananas. And he would take the banana and say, how much?

And he would say, well, this is 20 little corn shells. And he said, oh, there’s too much. You are making too much profit. You can check anyone else. This is the rate. Listen, I know that you are hoarding money. You’re wearing this ripped cloth and everything because you are simply hoarding. So now you should give this to a Brāhmaṇa. So then he said, well, I worship the Ganges every day. If I don’t make any money from selling my vegetable, how I can worship the Ganges? So you can check the market. And if you give the market rate, Lord Shaitanya, he grabbed the bananas and said, no, you are making too much profit. I am taking these today, Lord. Grab them back sometimes. And then Lord, oh, you’re taking from a Brāhmaṇa.

All of us should get afraid then a little bit this way they would have so many sporting pastimes when Lord Caitanya was just a small boy.