19820503 Morning Walk Conversation

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The following is a Morning Walk Conversation with His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami Mahārāja on May 3, 1982 – in Detroit, Michigan, USA.

No problem. That’s what he wanted to do. He said he would have done it, would have never left. Down. Hari ram. Hari ram. Hari. Honey. Honey.

Honey.

Honey. Honey. Honey, Honey. Ram, Honey. Ram, Ram.

Honey, Honey.

How do you like what you hear? Are you liking the Kṛṣṇa Consciousness movement? Yes, yes. Getting some bliss chanting? Yes. How much you chanting now?

I chant 16 rounds.

That’s very nice. How long you been chanting?

I have just begun chanting again.

Since. Well, you were in the temple before?

Yes.

How long?

Two months, three months.

And there was some difficulty?

Yeah, but I realized it was my own difficulty. Basically.

You see one of the bright faces. Just because there was some difficulty. Difficulty that as I mentioned last night when you come back, Krishna is more pleased.

I feel like this time that Krishna has definitely given me a lot of mercy. And I thought that I would come stay three weeks and see if I could adapt a little better this time.

How many weeks are you over now?

Well, this is the beginning of the second week.

How you adapting?

Very pretty good. I mean, I haven’t been agitated hardly at all.

You know.

I think I understand. I think I understand. I think that I understand that I am definitely going to be agitated, but not to let it, you know, run me away. Just deal with it, accept it as part of life, you know, instead of not expecting any agitation at all from the devotees, from myself actually, but you know, just expecting everything to be, you.

Know, they’re going to be little without.

Interruption, you know.

The point is that people are attracted by the superficial goody situation where everyone smiles and walks around as if everything is. But inside there’s their personal turmoil. When it comes out, then it’s so shocking or everything. But that doesn’t really solve the problem. To build up your inner strength. There may be externally little agitation in the beginning, some difficulties, but then you build up your actual inner strength and dependence on Krishna so that you’re not dependent upon these outside situations. And you learn to take the good association of the devotees. And then sometimes if they’re having a troubled period or they’re going through and then they seem to be a little agitating, probably due to one’s own oversensitivity. Then you learn tolerate that until finally you get over that. Like you get your head over the clouds, then you can see the sunlight.

So til your head’s over the clouds you have to expect to be in the shadow a little bit. Other people are also in the hospital getting cured. It’s not everybody that’s already completely healthy but they’re at different level grades of the cure. But the real glorify, the glorious thing is that they’re being cured. They’re going to this purification. And when they are cured, then that’s forever. Rather than just trying to everything is all right and smile. When actually everyone knows it’s not all right and you’re not artificial. That’s. The devotees are sometimes a little spontaneous. And due to a lack of artificial. Even the kind of general. In a material world where people are in many ways more sensitive or more careful offending others or agitating others which should be there to devotee.

But sometimes in a kind of rejection of the whole artificiality of it before they tend to be maybe sometimes too callous. You know, it’s like an overreaction. That’s one problem. You get people that they are very attached to women. And then they become overreactive and become anti women. Or they are very attached to try to be very sweet or something. And then they get over it and then they become very heavy. And all these opposites are not good. One has to become transcendental. But when people are kind of going off the opposites. Like when you’re putting in the radio, sometimes your dial is going to go this way, that way, until finally you get it focused in. So while they’re focusing, sometimes they just go a little bit this side of center. Finally when they’re on center, then there’s not that problem anymore.

I am hoping that things would be different this time. Because I really don’t have any kind of material engagement that I can do. I mean, you know, I could get a job or something like that. But I would be so miserable, you know, if I had to do that. Not very appealing at all. So you can always figure the only success I ever get out of life is that it  will amount to anything. Is actually in the movement.

It’s a fact. You can always feel free to write me a letter. Thank you very much. What’s your name?

Baculari.

Bakta Larry. Nice boy, huh? Yeah. What are those little strings on his hair? Yeah, his hair braided. Just a style. Style. Yeah, traditional. Traditional, that’s what the way they do that in the way the slaves would wear their hair. You know, the black people sometimes would braid their hair. They call them cornrows with different things. Cornrows, that’s what they call them. My slide going up through my computer. So that the slowest speed units.

(Side B of the Cassette)

You should know how unfortunate you are that you are not allowed to go and join the sanctuary. Because you’re not supposed to. You should simply be praying. How can you be addicted to be able to go and see that Jesus? Then the people would say, oh, so you’re one of those.

You’re one of them.

Those type of people. They weren’t criticized to the Chanthazi that oh, he’s taking everyone. He’s taking people from all casts, from all different backgrounds. And he’s giving them this Hare Krishna chanting in his preaching. Which is not supposed to be chanting public only for the Brahmana, which is cutting into archaeological. Of course, Vai Chaitanya was a Brahmin. There are so many. But there are what they call it Caste Brahmin. Caste Brahman. Even when Bakshi. We know rather Bakshi Siddhanta was preaching. Even today to see many temples in Navajo Town. You have to take this. Because professional situations one thing that they had an exhibit. But they don’t have a biggest tab. This is to be the application. So it may happen. Only the hereditary defendant could do the Pakistan took his big curriculum party to Navajo.

They started to throw rods at him and the rooftop. We had 5,000 people. They had to take Pakistan Siddante and what we have to put his white cloth over so that they wouldn’t see him and smuggle him out. Because they’re trying to kill him. Because he was. He was taking against this idea of castism as. But it was not like that. When only the Brahminist could do the teacher from this way. That any Vaishnava they were properly purified. They could worship their sushan. Because the Taj was teaching us that they were thomad one time when he was going to frame the remains of his spiritual mansion. But of course, Babaji the God was so humble that he said that when I died, he bathe me to the street. Let the gods fight him. So they were already had the rope around his foot.

They were going to drag him to the street. He had ordered them. So Dr. Siddhanshis, I talked to us. You don’t understand the humility of advice. Is this how you’re going to respect the right knowledge? That’s with humility. We should be raised on our heads. We should be worship. We don’t stand into the street. You have no right over this. Well, these our vice knowledge. In other words, we have also right. Which of you has never broken any regular kitchen? Has never associated with respect. In the past three years you stepped forward any of you have not broken the principle in one year. You stepped forward in six months, in three months. In one month, in the last week, in the last three days. There always some opposition. There’s always some difficulty in what we can movement.

We see that what Chaitanya Mahatra was never compromised. Although he was the most merciful. On his terms, he wouldn’t accept anyone. Even the most fallen person. He wouldn’t compromise. Similarly also we cannot compromise. We have to carry out the instructions of our instructions and then we will be protected. There may be. This is practice the country. We have to do so many different things compromise. As a result of it, you single handedly was able to turn the whole time. Today that whole illusion about translation can only be wiped out. Again sounds fixing is necessary. Otherwise other points are bhaijanamen to do. Advocated to the whole God. Reformer also. Not in reformer in the sense of reforming original systems, but reforming from South America. There very nice people, nice program. The national libraries. And I brought some cards with me from Calcutta.

People that placed between 108 times, 106 times a day following the order of worship. And we asked for volunteers to take up. Not only had 200,000, but the whole 200 casters. They all came up, gave their name and address. They came up and they bowed down. Then I said, I  will give autograph the Bible of Judah. They just lined up with their books, man. I went by all lined up interview. Everyone is looking at one Lady Swami said that to get a person interested in Krishna consciousness you can use different meanings. Once they’re attached to Krishna, once they have accepted Kṛṣṇa, then you tell them all. Then you get them to do all the rules and all the regulations. And I do this to nearly tell everyone. All right.

Before you can, I just have to tell you that this means, you know, no meat, no gambling, no more talk. Gradually the whole audience  will gradually fall out of the room. So you don’t tell them all the rules or all that you know federal, philosophical sin. Immediately you may say we follow Krishna. But everyone can see the point is. First of all, you get them to accept Krishna. Once they accepted Krishna, once they have understood that I am Krishna servant, then automatically you can introduce now how to suicide. So that’s how to get them to first accept Krishna. That there may be some slight variation, of course the science like the church. And because you’re getting them to accept Krishna by a certain event. Obviously in the west we should do it by cultural equipment. But the ultimate thing, when they accept Krishna, then you can.

Then you have to also get the Nepal. But first let them accept Christmas. It’s just the same if you don’t tell someone the glories of the Holy Name if they don’t have faith. Because there’s no doubt besides telling people just to go up and tell you. The point is that depending on the person you can tell maybe a very devout Catholic or Latin something about they will accept it. You have to be a little more scientific about your approach. So the actual teaching you don’t compromise. But like a doctor, the spiritual action has to apply the medicine in such a way that the patient. But if one tries to unnecessarily change or the ultimate practice for the people who do accept Krishna and change that then of course that’s not true. That’s only when it’s time to bring it by new people.

The innocent people who are not devotees, who haven’t really accepted Krishna, who don’t know who is Krishna, who isn’t Krishna. They’re just in ignorance. For those people, we bring them in a different way. But then once they accept Krishna then we have to tell them it’s A and these things have already. Basically we don’t have to invent anything new that it  will be a little time before we even meet the program told us to trade program. He told it to do B program. He predicted that they would do big congregations. So all these things we have already predicted here Detroit. We said that the next program for connecting with the different ethnic groups of the city. I know the majority of given already so many different ideas that we don’t really have to over advise, but we have to for the actual devotees of acceptance.

We have to keep our standards. Basic principles. All these basic principles. This in terms of appearance a little bit of new way around my darkness. You’re in right now. The vast is also here. And now you are the two brothers have rejoined. Any other questions? Firstly, basic program is to distribute books. Every time that in this distributed book, this page distribution of books would gradually power the people because that the cabbage of the time of business. So we combined that with the traveling festival program. When they saw that were actually preaching cinnamon vegetables they didn’t mind that we also distributed books just to put someone that didn’t understand because all they could do was some of the.

So we started a whole combined program where we come into town, we put on A Canva program 10 programs with beer time, lecture, drama, film, wicked deals and then aside with booktable. And then we Enrolled people also in the non population. Mount Hata is a program where everyone can meet at least once a week to be a basic group every day to be a center and have a full duty work just to be a Mangir. We have Namhatrad Youth Mangir Temple and Mandir two different levels. And now between us we had when I left we had about 500 Namha differental another about 80 in Alisa. They just started recently and they’re doing the same thing in South India. In South India the people a little more Hindus teaching in east and South India.

I encourage them to do the cannons tigurats and when Maharashtra told me they’re going to do it, I gave them all the papers. But I don’t know what the program. So we have very good response. Even Muhammadans are coming up and agreeing with saying Hari Khalil every day. Several Christian boys, Christians in Kerala, St Thomas landed in Kela just after he went. St Thomas, St Thomas, he landed 1900 years ago. 1800 years ago. And somehow he converted a few Egyptians. So some of those descendants, some of them have accepted initiation also. And I remember that one of the boys, his mother said why do you want to become a Hindu? And he said no, it should have all. But it’s just like first when Jesus Christ came and all the Jewish priests they were all saying that they must follow Jesus the same way.

Now religion is polluted to the Prophet has come. So many people may not accept that we have to follow the truth. So they have offered us some the Ramanuja Sampradaya and the Madras Sampradaya thousand. They become very appreciative of our movement. I know that the Ramadija Sampradaya requested me to come and address the assembly of Brahmanas and the public assembly. When they came to the second biggest Vishnu temple in South India they gave us full silver tab with coconut iris processing coming into the town. And then as they gave way to the temple Alistam decorated with big tree logs and with gold and other tapestries over he gave Mahaprata Dalam. He bowed down and gave the Mahatritab Dalit over my. Then they took the new cloth and put it on the viajes and then took that off and wrapped it around on the head.

So many things, just one finality after another silver. So they’re also offering us one of the 108 temples which are considered more sacred by Ramen. They’re often one of them. This is a place where Maheel Morsi gave out the nexus of the Democrats and it feels that the nectar is still available at certain times of the year. So all the town people, the whole town little village of Brahmina, they’re all very much in favor of trying to think that they wanted. And there’s a very big lotus lake there. It’s all the beautiful steps around it and the walls, the temple, the actual natural structure building eagles over enormous period of land and the presence that was there for thousands of years. The walls are about 32 times, I think the big compound wall. And it has two sub temples with it.

One is an isma temple where you have to go into a cave and it’s in the center of a mountain in the shape of an elephant. And the mountain is exactly in the cave of an elephant. According to this tree. That was no recently 2000 years ago the game they. They had some big elephants. They made a big elephant with this huge 500ft high by practically a mile long. I mean the mountain. I am just saying the mountain at least a thousand feet high by a mile long.

Napriyakaro Sama.

Pap.

Sam sara sa Harry Present day be.

But.

Sam.