19820902 Darśana lecture

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The following is a Darśana lecture given by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami Mahārāja on September 2, 1982 – in Murāri Sevaka Farm, USA.

All of them are essential to our kas. But one will try to create a situation in the mind so that one has an easy way out so just to keep the prestige in case one is already quite proud of being a devotee, then of course one won’t like to just go out into the material world. They want to show all the fears that he has made in his devotional career that also I am a devotee. I am chanting, I am doing everything. Don’t think that I am in Māyā, it’s all right, I am Kṛṣṇa Khan. The same thing was there india, is still there india today. Senior people, sometimes they leave the preaching field. They leave the preaching field and they go to some holy place and just sit down and they say, now I am retiring for postgraduate worship.

But actually their motive is that it wasn’t time for them to already retire into so called postgraduate. They were not at that stage of development just for all these various reasons, one or more they decided to leave the active preaching field, the active association of devotees and just to maintain the so called MerCedes Shah, a greater show of renunciation. See, I know more enough. I will just eat once a day. I will not associate with any women at all. I will just break from door to door or something. They do some extreme. But there’s some extreme austerity there’s described here that’s also true of Jesus. The type of cheating that the actual austerity is to remain in the preaching field and try to help the innocent people come back to their original, pure spiritual consciousness. That is the actual austerity because that’s what Kṛṣṇa wants.

He wants that people lost in the spiritual world who are suffering reincarnation are suffering laws of karma that they can be freed from this misuse. And in preaching there are definitely many obstacles, there are many difficulties. One should learn tolerate those ones, learn tolerate them. Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad Gītā that there is no devotee who is more dear to him than one who explains the spiritual science, the Bhagavad Gītā, to his devotees. So one should try to be a dear most devotee to the Lord by disseminating this wonderful knowledge of Kṛṣṇa consciousness as was handed down to the discipline succession to Bhakti Saddam, Prasar Shadi Thakur, through his divine grace and spread all over the world by the International Society for christian practices. So that will be the greatest welfare work one can do.

That itself is the greatest austerity even though the austerity may be to distribute big peace to so many people and to attract people by doing even festivals on the floor of the air, wonderful demonstrations or arrangements. That’s the austerity. That austerity. One becomes happy, the other is type of warranties. Actually a retreat. It’s actually a queen from the battlefield. Simply one is covering up. Instead of running out with the back away, they’re backing off, just trying to keep their face forward, as if they’re still in the battle, but they’re just back. It’s a way of retreating out the back door rather than the front door. Any questions? It was folk is not something that Prabhupāda didn’t discuss. I personally asked about doing folktide program in 1977. That time he told me, yes, this is what our temples are for.

We bring the people to stay with us for some time, a few days a week, and then send them back to their home, and they will make their people reach the country, the village, reach the country. Indian religious before I went to India in 1970, in Los Angeles, I was on a morning walk with Śrīla Prabhupāda. One day he just suddenly stopped, and then he turned to us and said that, don’t think that everyone will live in the temple. There are many people who are not able to do anything. They will lead their lives outside. They will be closely associated with the temple. They will be coming and Sunday festive days, but they will be worshipping in their house, he said, similar to the christian church, we will have big congregations for all of our temples.

So the thing that I realized in doing this Mamita Volkswagen program is that it would not have been possible to do that. First you have to have a look at it. You have to have the temple. They’re like the high streets, the nurse from there you can maintain so many people in a region, in a state, in an area, because just in the material world, especially as seen in the west, the environment is very much problematic for advancing spiritual life. There are so many distractions, so many bad associations. One needs to play so one can have that intense, pure association. That’s why also our temples have to remain at a very high state of purity, so that anyone coming into them will feel the purity, will feel the spiritual atmosphere, then they can take that with them.

They can also improve their own spiritual life, even at the outside. But they have to be able to come back and to recharge, to get strength from those. This is also described by how to be known tak or what he described as Naohta, he said that the places that the major temples and major holy places, these are like wholesale centers, big wholesale markets, commercial areas where one can come and purchase the holy name of Kṛṣṇa with the price of giving the money of faith. Then one can either be a traveling salesman and go around and distribute that commodity, that pure faith in Kṛṣṇa, the chanting of the heaven. Or one can establish a small retail shop and one’s house, invite people at Shabbat. One can preach God consciousness and practice God consciousness.

So when one has to keep in touch with the wholesaler, keep getting the commodity from the wholesale, the other people are all the agents or they may also be brokers. The difference between a broker and a retailer, the retailer will buy the goods either on credit or by giving cash, and then he will sell it. But a broker, he won’t personally buy it. All he will do is he will find the customer, connect the customer with the wholesaler or with the retailer. Then when there’s a sale, he gets also a share of the. He gets a commission. Someone may also not actually know very much about Kṛṣṇa consciousness, may not be very advanced, but he may say, oh, here’s someone who’s just like these people were there, someone was a friend of theirs.

They met and connected with an Uber novel, which is a nice community in Marae. You can go there. So even that person may not remain. Of course, I don’t know. But say, even as an example, that person didn’t know much about, very much about, but had something. So he directed these people to come. So by whatever amount they practice Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then that person, he gets a direct commission from Kṛṣṇa. Then they tell them that they can get directly from those who have the humanity, the name of Kṛṣṇa, and they can, like, visible them. So everywhere some people are described as sweepers of the Maharajah. Sweeper is actually one of the most exalted positions. The job of the sweeper is keep the market clean.

That means that in spiritual life, there’s so many motto, so many speculations, so many theories, so many false type of teachings and features, and those can actually confuse one in one spiritual practice. So the sweeper again keeps all these misleading understandings out of the market, keeps it start clean. How could you know? Coffee took the position of the soup. You wouldn’t let any bogus ideas get it. As many speculations, as many ways to go, there are many paths, but ultimately they all combine in the mainstream similarities. So that finally one has to come around to the real path, the other ways. There may be so many ways, but ultimately they’re all heading towards the same direction. They have to finally come to the final path. That final path is actually pure devotion. One cannot approach Kṛṣṇa. He says so many times.

No one can know me except for my purity. What? An ordinary person won’t tell anything. If you go up to this stranger and say that, excuse me, where do you keep your money? Where’s your pain? How much? Anything like if the person travels, become very offended. Who are you? Why do you ask these? In my personal affairs, you don’t have things I am not going to tell you. You’re a stranger. Similarly, why is God going to reveal all the mysteries of its existence to someone that he’s not a devotee? If the person is in immigrant or doesn’t actually have any faith? Therefore there are many people, even that devotees of God in one way form another. But because they’re not very pure, therefore they don’t actually go deep into the mysteries. They’re kept a secret.

Unless one actually becomes a devotee of the Lord, it’s not possible to know all the mysteries of him or of his creation. And as soon as one, even if one decides to study from the viewpoint of the devil, from the viewpoint that whatever Kṛṣṇa is saying in Gītā, he’s saying as the supreme God, if one just looks from that point of view, then one can see how everything makes sense. So Mike could actually sort of come out in study probably just before philosophical discussion that. So how is it that in that case, going outside of the association of these godwilders, the answer is quite self evident. What actually goes in for sure, you can see that practically speaking, in cooperating in every step he tried. In fact, most of the time he was with various godmothers until he didn’t ask to leave.

What they asked him to leave. His preaching was so dynamic that for some reason they were doing some inconvenience. They asked him to maybe you should go somewhere else. He wanted that there should be more post printed, that there should be attempt to actually follow Baki Sadat’s instructions to work cooperatively. Shiva Bhawka was the champion of the cause of getting everyone to work together about 80 50 years ago. 50 years ago, but no one was interested in working together. So then also back to Sudan, I gave him so many dreams and requested him, which he came into the west and brought his christian masters here.

And then also he wrote to the principal missions of his spiritual master that were still remaining requesting that he would act simply as their agent, he didn’t want to be independent, but they refused because in fact, quite unfortunate that they didn’t give me any support whatsoever. So practically I personally saw. Even when he came to Māyā for an established temple in 1972, he called the all of his God brothers to my apart chandramundir. And he requested that they all merged together and form a joint reaching force. But they didn’t accept that. They didn’t ask to be the head of it, basically speaking. And then every year he was continuing to head. One time another one temple came by one of the other small temples that was struggling, that was an offshoot of the ritual.

And even they just did not want it to really work in that particular spirit. For various considerations, he would have been willing to accept the conditions that they offer. They won’t even offer any conditions. It’s like the BBC, they offer. I can’t think of anyone that ever asked to leave the group. Rather they always offer various opportunities for people that want to leave or have left to come back. They usually could. You tell us about some of the latest developments? In my opinion, well, right now my upwork had a 24 hours treatment before George Lagina’s bathing ceremony and about 17 village groups came, chanted from six in the morning to next. You know how they do these 24 hours, Kirklands, it’s like a Yaqi, they all like contractors, they’re going to keep the girt down, going nonstop.

So say what group, while they start the Girtan, they will only be chanting hare in front of the beauty outside before they go. And they will be championship warming up outside. Then they will come in and those two groups will do our joint kits and together around then. That way you have to play one drum, then an old group will go out, the new group will continue chanting for stay about an hour and a half, 2 hours. And meanwhile another group, that way they just keep the group going non stop. So that we had all the villagers came out, they felt it was their own festival. They all came and they had some chance. Is that Virginia the robot Samabi, which is costing the course about a million and a half dollars. Huge building.

So the four up to six foot stories already completed auditoriums downstairs are completed and now they put out big steel trusses going up about 80ft. Stick dome, which is about 90ft, I believe, in diameter. Hi sheer dome. It’s one of the biggest domes in Asia and I am not sure if it’s the biggest attachment. And so they have already finished the steel trusses for them. Now they’re putting in the trusses. Of the eight new trusses, the trust is alone. They’re used to hold up the county like a big guy, like building a whole bridge most of all. But that’s just for money back. That way it’s more solid, reappealing in a very big scale where it does nothing compared to the main temple we’re going to do.

But already you can see that on any good day, like a clear day, 15,000 people will just come from neighboring city and have a big holiday. So there’s 20,000, 30,000 people coming in November. Actually we don’t have to go anywhere for preaching. So many people are coming here. This is even without the Samadhi temple. The Samadhi temple is there. It’s going to be unbelievable. Even though we can see already that the Māyā, poor Samaritan is going to have a lot more effect than India, than northern Samaria. Why is that? And the Bengali’s Māyā for itself is just attractive Māyā for it is. There are a thousand temples there. But everyone has come to know about my import as the hardest.

They are one of the important temples, maybe the first or second most important temple, but still the other temples are still very common, distinct. So when they think of Rengalant they think of many things but for some reason when they think of Reku they just think of very fishy. So now that’s even we don’t have a very complex. We have lot of buildings, we have our agriculture, we have our rural schools, we have our ant rooms, we have the boat reaching and advanced breaching and various windows and all the things. But we don’t actually have even a proper big temple. We have our temple room, but it’s square structure, not in dorm structure.

So when actually this big temple is going to be the biggest temple in the whole of my airport, the biggest temple, I think in the whole of Nepal it follows temples. So it’s going to also. They already have a habit of worshiping non Christian. That’s the way they come from. The Lord, which was made by one american Muslim, was given the name Sister Andy Baker. So the fact that this is being tributed by especially the american DWG and devotees from around the world and also the special meaning to it that the international devotees have such a great love and respect for Shila Nova that they’re constructing. Time to stir up some enthusiasm for taking Shiva. No, along the path of Māyā war, going like a section by section each year for two months, January to January, February.

So that also some sanctuary time devotees might be able to come in short term. That will require ideas, not just to go with a small group of people, but to go with, say, 100 devotees. And then every night have an advance party. Go ahead, set up a whole candle camp and Prashad’s kitchen and everything. And then every day prepare mass kitchen Prashada food so we can feed anywhere up to 510 thousand people with the help of the local people. This way. Go on the profession, build up as many people as come meet every person that comes, and then through scratch they move along that way, running at about 20 miles a day, doing a festival every night. More people actually, although it would be quite a.

We have to walk only about 10,000 km, but we only do it in about 800 miles and 800 segment. It wouldn’t be that difficult. The difficulty is in the logistics. We need to have a truck to go ahead with the thing set up at camp. We have the basic manpower, just to be nice, to have a few more boys come, just to kind of sing a dance along, and the weather is so nice. The real crucial issue would be if I just got appropriate. A lot of temples are then meglizon because not only their fault, but partly because there was some relocation office in New York. A lot of checks were returned and things those are being straightened out.

All the temples actually did the marathon they were supposed to do, and we actually got about ten, $20,000 and I think that would be enough of a reserve. They would hate to go out there and have all those people coming to run out of them. We’d be able to pick up a lot of donations along the way of drain. Usually people came. If you have the Dow, you can get maybe two thirds of the rice. We need it. One third we have to give and another only dahlia is our experience. We may get even more than what we can give up, a little bit more salvage. And if we do it in a big way, we actually press them to support the whole program. This way we try to revitalize.

So if I am not able to get out together this year, but then I will definitely try for this year and see what happens. Whatever fish you want. India is amazing, although it’s very important. There was just one man who donated 2 million, rs2 million for purchasing land, one of our natives. Sometimes you get a person that’s not here to be very wishy, just decided to give his whole life saving to serving christians. Of course, they’re very rare, but because their religion properly takes a lot of time, but it’s nice to have Robert said, I have given you the layer for project that way. Don’t shoot it. Everyone’s going, you know, can’t remember the exact name. That’s our Namata program. We have almost 800 to 900 ranches in both urban and rural settings where the Zane’s village is at 510. Who will be interested in practice?

That means that the radius. But they’re working within the shelter. This guy’s not responsible for what they do financially or any other legal way. At the same time, morally, there’s a type of responsibility, so they can only use them. I don’t have to name as long as they are approved specifically for that place. If they get into something. There was one article in BG, they all work on farm, the rules in the world. They just got a tax exemption for the government as their official motion. We have the same thing. They built the schools and other things in the local villages. And their project is type of nucleus. They got so many services. Doctor told me 50 grams of muscle. Then squeeze ginger root and get 50 grams of ginger root. Put the two together in a very slow heat. Shouldn’t be boiling.

Slow heat evaporates all of the water in that mixture down again to 50 grams, not 2oz. And then you take that and put it on the nighttime. Put a sweatshirt, overdose, and most of the whole heat of the ginger is within. So then the whole night. Don’t sweat like anything. It’s much more penetrating than big screen. The big screen attempts to dry up the mucus, and then again it comes out. They said that it draws the mucus into the bloodstream. That puts it into the stool after four or five days of liquidity. Ginger juice, ginger juice. Press the squeeze, you get the juice out, simmer it down again to just. And you let it equal amount. Then when you apply it, you have to warm up that. Warm it up again.

Any of our symptoms before perhaps looking around and thinking at all, you look, India, I am indian, but American from Mexico. American Indian, that would be. Well, I am not American Indian from the United States. North Africa. That’s also. What type of indian size is that? Well, that would be the aspect of Inca. They find that in aztec and inca history that a lot of the deities and things they had were directly the same as what you find indian architecture, indian culture, ancient India. They always come up with some theory that there was the Atlantis and that the culture crossed over from Atlantis. They’re trying to figure out how the culture came over. There’s a book called the Ramayana, which is said to be written actually 100,000 years ago. And the Ramayan describes that there was a tunnel between India and South America.

Still today, there are several big tunnels. Guyana. They sent many expeditions down the tunnels in Peru. They never come back down. Then they don’t come back. So then one time, the government, they set up. They had radios, they had cables, telephones, the whole thing. They went down and they went down. And then somehow, at one point, communications. Then they sent the army down. Anybody wants to go down there, go on. There. It, it.

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Rajiv raj go via dhamma bidana radhe. Amen. What? I don’t beverage. Jama Sadeena saiyan Sadeena. Sadeena, Sadeena. But device navrina chant and Rādhākuna. Getting over dianki big sadi dash khan never did my food. Hamki jamunama sankitani namashnu tales namaste sara sati devī go rabani pratashatari hari kṛṣṇa jaitanya hari kṛṣṇa. You could read from Bhakti Siddhānta Sarsari Takwas 6th verse. Śrī Prabhupāda referred to this poem by Bhakti Siddhānta. Often where the poem is addressing the mind. Asking the mind what type of transcendentalist, what type of bhakti yogī devotee is the mind. To this point the mind is successfully trained in what to avoid some of these dangers in the path of advancing transcendental. Saying that in pure devotees of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa there is a desire for gaining eternal position in the service of the lord.

But that desire for position is completely opposite from the material desire where one is ambitious and wants to get some material prestige or power. Because that position is simply in relationship to serving Kṛṣṇa. And it’s got no material hinged to it. The use of the word of sunya Māyā, ganha gandha means scent, aroma. Sometimes you have some smelly thing and you just leave it for a place for a while, even remove it. There’s still this aroma is there. So he’s saying that there’s not even a scent of my. Not even the aroma, not even the slightest traits of illusion, of materialistic connection. And especially saying that the cheating propensity of the material world which is so prominent in materialistic competitive pursuits where one is trying to always become top of the ladder.

That cheating propensity is completely absent in trying to obtain the favor of the lord to achieve his position in his eternal service. Then he further goes on to describe that there are two hellish existences. Two hellish materialistic existences which can stand in the way of our spiritual progress. One is the desire for material fame, prestige, position. And the other is to go off near Janata, to go off alone, to become independent, to disassociate oneself with the devotees. He describes that the desire for ambition is a chandari or a that we call a dog eating witch. And the desire to disassociate oneself with the society of devotees and their to try to just engage in solitary practice of devotional service. He describes that as a fisherman, meth, you have seen this big. He has not seen this thing.

First time he flew on a plane, was flying from Calcutta. So back to the point. We should watch out for the witch of material ambition and for the maze or the web of illusion and map which can just capture us of disassociating with the devotion. That’s a translation of running translation of this verse. Particular problems don’t usually attack in neophytes right at the very beginning. They can, you know, but generally in the beginning of one’s progress to spiritual advancement. The problem is more in identifying closely with the body or the mind, subtly or intelligent, rather than understanding one’s spiritual position, one’s spiritual identity.

So the dictates of the senses, which are so strong, which are always liable to just drag us away, rather than leading our life towards the actual objective of becoming spiritually perfect, of becoming closer to the origin of everything, the cause of all causes. Kṛṣṇa. Our senses are rather just trying to engage one in serving the senses. And in this serving of the senses, this poses a lot of problems for just a beginner. So generally just trying to regulate the senses, trying to become steady in the practice of devotional service, we are advised that we should realize that we’re not this body.

The body is actually on the, that we should take care of our body, we should keep it healthy, but we shouldn’t miss direct our energies to the extent that we’re all of our energy and maintaining our body neglect actually seeing that we achieve liberation from the body, achieve liberation from the material contamination, and actually achieve our eternal position in relation to Kṛṣṇa. So as one is getting over the habits which generally just bind us to material life, what is able to regulate his materials enjoyments to an extent where his mind actually becomes clear, one is actually able to live in a life and a mode of goodness. And then by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, he starts to, or she starts to make progress. So while progressing along this path, there are other subtle pitfalls which can come.

One of them is that a person generally has an estimation of oneself. Now, Lord Chaitanya advises that to advance Kṛṣṇa consciousness, one should actually think of oneself as just as low as a piece of straw or grass in the street. One should think of oneself as most insignificant in relationship with us and even in relationship with everyone else. And one should be very tolerant, in fact, more tolerant than a tree, even that mood. One should, rather than desiring respect for oneself, one should offer all respect unto others by keeping this humble state of mind. Then one can continuously chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and actually become Kṛṣṇa conscious in this life very quickly. What happens is that due to a little carelessness, because the mind is very powerful, even if one controls the senses, the mind will be pushing one that you’re very important.

You should have this position. You should have this type of respect. You should have this type of reciprocation of certain people. Otherwise the mind is only subtle. Desire, sustain, adoration, distinction, kind of position. They can drive one. Exactly. They can drive one. Actually man haunt one like that. Just like a witch is haunting, alluring, never giving one any specialist. Chandali. You can say witch. You can also say very immoral woman. Someone who is always trying to seduce one should also be a chandali. So that type of seductive mentality where one is always being attracted, that you’re more important, you deserve more, you should have more. This creates a typical envious mentality. And when one doesn’t achieve that type of respect in emotional service, generally speaking, people are not given that much respect if they are exclusively unhallful.

It just comes spontaneously that no one can plan out that I should get so much distracting. The cards that count by Kṛṣṇa’s mercy. In fact, even sometimes 1 may think, well, I done a very good job. At that time, they didn’t really remember to recognize the Kṛṣṇa is recognized. If their mind starts to sell, they didn’t appreciate, they’re not encouraging, should be having more positions. Then what happens is one can start to fall into a type of dissatisfied mentality. That dissatisfaction can lead what? Various directions it can lead what to becoming envious of other devotees in the act better than they are. They deserve more respect than they do, or something like that. Then this way, one, although on the spiritual path, he starts to imitate a materialist.

But because he’s already on the spiritual path, if he gets frustrated enough, then he thinks, well, these devotees are. I don’t mean the devotees. Actually, since I am a very devotee, actually I will go alone. Sometimes a devotee actually distributed by the senses with the devotees, the person can speak so many sense gratifications. Life is possibly a bit more regulated. So then sometimes the senses also are motivating one. Leave the devotees. Leave the devotees. You can practice on your own. You don’t need the devotees. You can have a better situation if you’re not with the devotees. And then one with the various motivations, either due to a frustrated desire for prestige, due to some frustration, for some subtle enjoyment or gross enjoyment, one is driven away from the society devotees.

So that is described something like jumping out of the kettle into the fire, you go out of the safe. Actually, it’s not the fire at all, just the fire. Because the person not contain control. Tonight, taking property remedies in the appropriate way, by association with the rotis, by consulting with senior vice fellows, by actually trying to control. Actually, the whole purport of this verse is to control the mind. That the mind is not a very wise mechanism. The mind is basically very treacherous. The mind is simply a type of index of all the experience we have had in this life, and even impressions from previous life. Those are coming up as subtle desires, attachments and illusions.

And rather with the good intelligence, with the words of the spiritual master, with the words of real wisdom that we find in the vedic literature, Bhagavad Gītā, we have to judge whether the mind is actually distinguished. And if it is, we have to dislike an unfaithful thought. We just have to chain it down and beat it, heal, don’t get disobedient. Mind is not to be the molder of our life, whether it is simply a machine. We want to remember what to do, we want to do something, then we address our thoughts in a particular way. Intelligence is a far more subtle and experienced machine. Can we take the intelligence that we get from the gurus, from the scriptures, and we take that intelligence and we control the thoughts of the mind? The mind will come up with so many thoughts.

Some of them may be very good, some of them may be very bad. So whether to accept or reject any thought that is the work of the intelligence. So whatever is favorable for our desire, devotional service, you must accept that if you want to go, and whatever is going to be an obstacle, we have to reject it. So when the mind comes to take that decision, let me leave the devotion, let me leave the association of devotees that is described. Just like one is going into a maze, one’s falling into a type of spider’s web, where one will be entangled in so many mental adjustments and mental fantasies to substantiate one’s actual false position in this type of cheating mentality.