19820902 Disappearance Pastimes of Śrīla Haridāsa Ṭhākura

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The following is a lecture on the Disappearance Pastimes of Śrīla Haridāsa Ṭhākura given by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami Mahārāja on September 2, 1982 – in Murāri Sevaka Farm, USA.

Namaste Sara. Satirical Hare Kṛṣṇa. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa. Hareghe, Radhe. And this is the solution, just to get rid of people to come and associate with the devotees to see, practically demonstrating how we can meet a happy life. Everyone was coming to me. Everyone is so happy. That would be the ideal Kṛṣṇa. Thinking spiritual Kṛṣṇa thoughts and channing our Kṛṣṇa. Using all the natural gifts of Kṛṣṇa sincere service to offer that tradition, various structures. Very natural. So there, of course, is, if I recall correctly, last time I was in Korai, it was also very dark. Actually, the most important thing to really remember, about four or 5000 people have come. They will be chanting, hurry down for 24 hours to start this day at sunrise. Different groups coming, taking the turns.

And then when I lecture time while I hear them at moonlight, at the Iskan food. So this membrane of the activities and especially glorifying the devotees is more important than glorifying the Kṛṣṇa. Because someone may glorify Kṛṣṇa, his greatness and his qualities. But somehow another, the real need of devotion. When you glorify these great devotees whose whole life is completely directed, dedicated, devotional, then you can’t help but simultaneously glorify the Lord and pick up that devotion easily. So, and also Kṛṣṇa himself, he prefers delights devotion to glorifying devotion served. So, of course, we worship both the Lord with his devotion. He’s not separate. It’s not that the Lord is just alone, Prabhupāda. He never liked those pictures of Kṛṣṇa Vista in the clouds.

He said, Kṛṣṇa is not in the college, he’s in Vrindavan, surrounded by his coward boys and cowboy girls, friends and his mother and father and children, other children, cows and all calves. Kṛṣṇa is always with his devotees. Therefore, when one glorifies Kṛṣṇa, you can’t help but glorify his devotees. He’s glorified as Yasudanandana. He’s glorified as Raja Jana Rantana, the beloved of Yasuo. As the life and soul of the residents of Vrindavan. He’s glorified as Nandananda Maharajah. In relation to his devotees, Gopī Paranajalpis is natural. Kṛṣṇa is not alone. He’s with all of his devotees. And similarly, when we glorify Haridas takra with Mithaya Gordon, we cannot separate.

In fact, one of the significances of this pastime, of his passing away is actually the separation that Haridas Thakur was somehow another, always connected with the Lord, chanting his holy name 300,000 times per day while preaching with Lord Nitinanda, house to house in avenue while visiting waited Osai at Shantipur while being with Lord Caitabna, Mahabharu and Abu. Then again in Koori where Lord Caitabna would daily come and see him. Even that Jagannath queen temple wouldn’t allow him to go inside the temple with Lord Sheikhaniya Jagannath himself. Jagannath himself would go to see Haridas Takur in the form of Morcetanya Saguna go to see Haridas Takum. Today, in fact, Ramachitani will take the darshan, our jagannath. And they realize devotees will see that there is Jagannath, Achal and chala moving and not moving. Jagannath in Diti form is not moving.

And Jagannath in moving form was there at Chetani Mahatma. So Haridas Thakur was practically always in connection with the Lord. And as a result he was very intimately. He didn’t want to. Actually we have to experience that separation. That hopelessness, type of separation the Lord leaves ends his pastime. We know that apart from some rare, practically inconceivable mercy that you won’t be able to see the Lord anymore during this particular time on this earth following us, Haridas Taqwa knew that the Lord’s pastimes are coming to an end when bear begin to think of being on this planet without the Lord being present somewhere or another on the planet without being able to have the hope of seeing the Lord again. Until one hunter bodies couldn’t conceive of that type of situation, what the state of the devotees would be.

Actually, Śrīnivasacharya’s history kind of revealed that after Lord Caitanya left the planet all of his devotees essentially became man. When Lord Caitanya himself had said, when people said, you are a great lover of Kṛṣṇa, you’re always crying for Kṛṣṇa, you are such a great devotee. Then he would say, how can you say this completely wrong? Not at all a good devotee. Rather. If I was truly a real lover of Kṛṣṇa, how could I live when Kṛṣṇa is not love? How can I live in the absence of Kṛṣṇa? I should die immediately in this country if I had any love at all. Practically, that’s what happened. When Lord Chaitanya leftas Vishnu, Priya Devī, the other associates, they just went mad. Just every time their mind was thinking of Lord Chaitanya.

And then as soon as they wanted to say something, they would just think of how Lord Sheethandi had been so kind upon them, how he had been so merciful, how they wanted to again touch his lord, his feet, to hear his lessons to them. And they just become choked up. And as a result, they could never again go outside their house, practically speaking, and simply just sit the whole day and night crying, weeping and chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa and chanting and thinking, meditating. They’re completely absorbed in separation, practically. Many of them were just absorbed like the gopīs were in Printavan, similar type of mood. It was complete separation. Adidas Takohi couldn’t imagine himself at that time, even a momentary separation.

Actually, unless one is able to carry out the order of the spiritual mass, the whole purpose of living is simply to carry out the order of the spiritual master. Haridas Takara was already very old. He had trouble changing this 300,000 times. Hare Kṛṣṇa. So therefore. So what’s the use of living? I won’t be able to practice properly. There’s no use in living. The Lord is also going to. Practically speaking, it’s better for him to go with the spiritual master. Otherwise, he should somehow try to follow and carry out the desire of the spiritual master, preserve his teaching and contention, and that will be a worthwhile staying. So, of course, we understand that we don’t have such an intense appreciation of the spiritual master. That’s something that can only happen. We’re causing mercy, but forbidden have the top most condition function.

So simply by the worst issue of robot. Somehow or other, of course, we have some appreciation construction so that we could actually delve deep into what is our relationship and what is the actual responsibility and denimists that we have. Then, of course, that experience would be earth rendering personally expressed many occasions for intense feelings, that intense determination. He came alone all the way to the west, in spite of being harassed in the right, but also being harassed on the way over, being harassed to get over being discouraged all the way along. He kept on in spite of every possible discouragement, practically speaking, until years and years later, when he finally established the Kṛṣṇa conscious movement firmly in the west after being here more than a year, that was the first sign of encouragement all the way uphill.

Of course, sometimes the Lord makes it difficult for us so that we don’t stop short of what he wants. Sometimes, if it’s very easy, then one would just stop at that particular state, that now this is what Kṛṣṇa wanted. As soon as we think about, this is enough. Opened up one or two centers, you see, he opened up a center in New York, San Francisco, Montreal. Normally at that juncture, then he had to go back to India for his health. Normally at that type of a juncture, the ordinary mill to be in creatures they would have called it a day. Here I am right back. And I proceeded to establish. Even after a very advent he was leaving. He said, well, how you have to finish the other half. You can increase.

At least maintain when someone comes along and finish off what I started. So the prophet had that intense determination to carry on. Bhakti Shema. We see that in the life of Hari Dash taqwa. From the very beginning he was given. He started chanting 300,000 names. Even he was expected to be killed. Whatever he was whipped. Even the prostitutes and other came to break his oath. So even though she sang, a person requested. You’re old now, you don’t have to do it. You have already done so much. As long as I have this body, I am going to go on the plane. When he was saying that finally the lord was going and he was also at that time the body was giving out. Let me at least go. Seeing the whole life he was changing. Haridhima, I want to say Kṛṣṇa.

That means that he only wanted to associate in his next existence. Also would take him whenever the last thought we have. What was his last name? That was devotees would come down from Bengal and see where she came. He would sometimes arrange candle wood and he wouldn’t even arrange the jagannath Pujaris would spontaneously come with flower garland. And Lord Shaitan he would see that firstly that knowledge sometimes you would bite out to them is to have the devotees that can loving Lord. They were close to all of the other devotees respect how Asia developed rocking. He was just gradually nothing more than give us this moment that we can always engage in the emotion without. Just like we take from one step to the next to see where I put his voice. Just as you looking at. Although we can sadeena it. It.

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Well, I gave a couple lectures when he went to. When he went to Nagaji Khan, how he went to Jagannath poor in Ortegon and disappeared. Then he went medicine on her and then wanted to get the Bible Tommy written. Came back and without her death. So when he went to navigate, he met. When he went to nazis and he met. And at that stage, of course, she wasn’t really heavy separation from what she discusses, her separation and the state. She’s in the bed. But there are other details given now elsewhere. But I haven’t gotten into reading those particular books. The only thing I know about is just that part, that very short reference where she was just always absorbing herself and serving the meditation. But Vishnu Priya’s other details, I think I take any Bible describes. I was just gonna look it up.

Basically she worships. Somehow she was given a shoe with Karam. And of course there is a situation like they. Some of these personalities are like dual among your mumchari as well as she’s labor people. Because when she was with Nithyananda, she was able to be the one Nikyana left and she would go out and preach Hari nam. It was like she had double role, like two personalities in one. This is a very esoteric. Papa mentioned the purple personalities. That’s who I heard that.

But someone told me that you mentioned how we can take direct health.

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That is the only.

Analogous view of judgment has the mostly. And also just that. Although sometimes it might become like hopeless. But over so far, then, if we meditate on how merciful mitivor are and then depend on their mercy and we can be determination. Any other questions? Hundred. How many years? 500. Another question. She really absorbed herself in abortion. So much so that Lord Caitanya, Sachimasya and Kṛṣṇa Priya, he later had said that many times he was coming to the house where he was there and taking off and taking the prashama, although he was unseen. So like that, the devotee came under standard spiritual masters present. One serves with that faith worship. There’s a discipline I claim to be from China. I don’t know whether the ones that claim to be from her are really from her.

Sometimes I think that some of her disciples were also women and they had disciples. She was restricted as how do I. In a certain way, dear Chandler was more active in terms of reaching. Anyway, being a woman, she was little research in how she went around and how she wouldn’t go alone anywhere. She’d go with an entourage. So many. She went in one main well known procession where she went up to Kpuri, visiting Shantipur, Khashoggi. Karma. Karma and I would be. And it ended up Naruto Takwar’s festival. Guarponima festival. And then from there she went to Ekachakwa Gang and saw the birthplace of. And from there she went to Vrindavan. From Vrindavan she came back. So she went with a whole party of people. While she was in Cuerda. Many people would come to see, to travel. She would travel very well.

She’d be served by Gaṅgā. But in the Bhakti Ratnaka it describes that at every stage of the festival, Narutram Das Taka would take their permission. Vishnu Pakistan. She was respected as the most senior Vaishnav there. Of course, because she was directly associated. Devotees in the north knew she was an internal shepherd. She wasn’t even. But that time she was there. Then only at the son of a great younger generation was there. She of the original associate was only up. She was one of the very few. And amongst them, she was the most famous. The original associates love. A lot of them are living under branches. And so they all respected her. Positive Christians in Boston area. How the most effective way I was thinking in terms of our philosophy fits into every aspect of society and culture.

So how to not in one sense word down or compromise our philosophy, but presented it in such a nice way in so many different ways. Also good sparks of interest in people in general, specifically in colleges. And the whole expertise for free time Shapir by time, place. Learn how to present the Kṛṣṇa conscious philosophy. And such a way that philosophy that you made, according to the listener, from the people that have relate with it. It would it be wrong to say most housing, but not my group has a Toyota back to Ghana? Yes, they’re very good examples. They always thought they started with some topical issues too. But in the end, the conclusion is always Kṛṣṇa conscious. So like that you can start with any issues. Maybe some point which you can relate to. Then the conclusion has to be Kṛṣṇa Khandhe.

The Kuru temptation shouldn’t be coming to them. Maybe, but according to the situation. But the conclusion. The conclusion should be obscured by the other arguments. Of course, it’s just a PI aspect. Public relations has been. You might want to discover dialogue to get some interest that have similar interests legal. There’s one aspect, the anti abortion. If we don’t want to be identified to the public as being part of any of these particular movements, exclusively with those movements that identify us. Yeah. What’s your name? You made it up. To the point that if it takes some confusion, doubt or agītātion in the mind, not being killed, to see the thing in a spiritual way of understanding clearly enough devotion, just read it. Anybody understands it. They understood it. They don’t. You’re not going to understand more by.

This metaphor.

When will we understand? They have to have understand. That not easiest thing.

Like that.

Wasn’T even bad. This all the said that he put in all these things because he had to, otherwise it’d be my sleep. But actually, some of the things that I meant, even for all of the disciples, to me, volume to the body. And how do we get to the 10th cancellation? The basic thing is the next one actually gets a taste of devotional service. And that’s when I actually started to take some activity. It’s very difficult to understand the first time because there are completely different realms. One has to. They’d be respected by all the local language. You will be worshipped by thousands. Nandarani, when she was there, were feeding people in the village. She was preaching and all the. Even the muhammadan women were coming around her, and she got them all the time. Hare Kṛṣṇa.

And the muhammadan men came and said, you’re all muhammadan, is why you’re telling Hari Kṛṣṇa. They just said, listen, for the first time you ever talked to a woman from America. We don’t care whether she says Hari Kṛṣṇa to us or what she says to us. We’re not gonna miss this chance.

Lots of nice people. You need somebody nice, and they have lots of social consciousness involved. And I think the biggest thing is difficult because people are saying, well, if you’re not sending money to save the whales or anything like that, or you don’t care about the whales, or, you know, it’s just like they think that visually, you’re not hard to do over. The point of.

All these so called save the well things are just feeding the curses of all the administrators to consent to the psychiatrist program, because we’re saving the people all over the world with new programs.

We don’t use whale thing, we don’t need whales. We are not in the world because they’re not an element. So it’s hard to get that over living in high.

Red vested, you know, robin roots or somebody Robin led, you know, the Abra, they don’t realize that while they’re changing and the crises, they’re not actually able to stop the crisis, announce that the virtue. So when we’re doing, the people that actually take talk about Kosher King, they can for good, even though they don’t be close to once you become a Hare Kṛṣṇa for more than a few months, hopeless for us. They have the most rate of people that come out and take cases against them and everything. That’s why it’s a great, a permanent change. And people become dedicated and concerned, but they don’t become concerned about the whales. And I think it’s like, what is the good cause? All these things could easily be found that people are not very generous. Now why take that in? How many people get to the whales?

First thing is people should know who they are. You want to help the well if you’re not even who you are. Educational institutions, nobody says that they’re antisocial or they’re absolutely not. They’re non social. This whole movement is basically an educational movement. We’re trying to educate the positive that they’re not material creature, that thinking material, they’re spiritual, that they’re undergoing reincarnation, that they’re subject to subtle laws of nature or laws of karma, that unless they understand and act according to these particular laws, are considering them, then they’re going to get more and more entangled. All these things like imbalances in society are going to want reducing it. All they’re doing is making some makeshift solution. We’re going to reduce, there’s some eruptions on the skin.

They may be taking care of the eruptions, but the internal disease has been cured and maybe due to some cancer or some other infectious disease that are there, they’re just suppressing the symptoms, but they’re not ending the disease. They may be able to now make a big skeleton and they save the whale, but they’re killing so many different creatures. What about the counter? What about the other creatures? Are something unnecessarily. So this is just like a excuse so a person can feel that while I am doing something, when actually it’s not really solving the root problem, it’s just going from one issue to the next. And by the time you die, you find you got actually have contributed to so many different issues with problems. But for high efficiency devotees, the problem, they should take the time a little.

They should take the time to see things from our viewpoint. They’re abusing and making a big accusation that they’re non social. So they should at least take the time to read some of our leadership and see things from our viewpoint. They may or may not accept it or may not adopt it as their own viewpoint that we’re not saying that they will see how is that possible. But at least if they want to make a critique of what we are. They want to pass a judgment even in the court. The judge reads the presentation of both the lawyers, and then he gives a verdict. To what extent have they taken the time to really look into our philosophy? What do we believe in? How do we see the world come out of.