20030624 Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 6.9.26-27

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The following is a lecture given by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami Mahārāja on June 24, 2003 – in New Tālavana, USA. The lecture begins with a reading from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 6.9.26-27.

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Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 6.9.26-27

yo naḥ sapatnair bhṛśam ardyamānān
devarṣi-tiryaṅ-nṛṣu nitya eva
kṛtāvatāras tanubhiḥ sva-māyayā
kṛtvātmasāt pāti yuge yuge ca

tam eva devaṁ vayam ātma-daivataṁ
paraṁ pradhānaṁ puruṣaṁ viśvam anyam
vrajāma sarve śaraṇaṁ śaraṇyaṁ
svānāṁ sa no dhāsyati śaṁ mahātmā

Translation: By His inconceivable internal potency, the Supreme Personality of Godhead expands into various transcendental bodies as Vāmanadeva, the incarnation of strength among the demigods; Paraśurāma, the incarnation among saints; Nṛsiṁhadeva and Varāha, incarnations among animals; and Matsya and Kūrma, incarnations among aquatics. He accepts various transcendental bodies among all types of living entities, and among human beings He especially appears as Lord Kṛṣṇa and Lord Rāma. By His causeless mercy, He protects the demigods, who are always harassed by the demons. He is the supreme worshipable Deity of all living entities. He is the supreme cause, represented as the male and female creative energies. Although different from this universe, He exists in His universal form [virāṭ-rūpa]. In our fearful condition, let us take shelter of Him, for we are sure that the Supreme Lord, the Supreme Soul, will give us His protection.

Purport: In this verse, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu, is ascertained to be the original cause of creation. Śrīdhara Svāmī, in his commentary Bhāvārtha-dīpikā, replies to the idea that prakṛti and puruṣa are the causes of the cosmic manifestation. As stated herein, paraṁ pradhānaṁ puruṣaṁ viśvam anyam: "He is the supreme cause, represented as the male and female creative energies. Although different from this universe, He exists in His universal form [virāṭ rūpa]." The word prakṛti, which is used to indicate the source of generation, refers to the material energy of the Supreme Lord, and the word puruṣa refers to the living entities, who are the superior energy of the Lord. Both the prakṛti and puruṣa ultimately enter the Supreme Lord, as stated in Bhagavad-gītā (prakṛtiṁ yānti māmikām).

Although prakṛti and puruṣa superficially appear to be the causes of the material manifestation, both are emanations of different energies of the Supreme Lord. Therefore the Supreme Lord is the cause of prakṛti and puruṣa. He is the original cause (sarva-kāraṇa-kāraṇam [Bs. 5.1]). The Nāradīya Purāṇa says:

avikāro 'pi paramaḥ
prakṛtis tu vikāriṇī
anupraviśya govindaḥ
prakṛtiś cābhidhīyate

Both the prakṛti and puruṣa, which are inferior and superior energies, are emanations from the Supreme Personality of Godhead. As explained in Bhagavad-gītā (gām āviśya [Bg. 15.13]), the Lord enters the prakṛti, and then the prakṛti creates different manifestations. The prakṛti is not independent or beyond His energies. Vāsudeva, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, is the original cause of everything. Therefore the Lord says in Bhagavad-gītā (10.8):

ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavo
mattaḥ sarvaṁ pravartate
iti matvā bhajante māṁ
budhā bhāva-samanvitāḥ

"I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me. The wise who perfectly know this engage in My devotional service and worship Me with all their hearts." In Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (2.9.33) the Lord also says, aham evāsam evāgre: "Only I existed before the creation." This is confirmed in the Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa as follows:

smṛtir avyavadhānena
prakṛtitvam iti sthitiḥ
ubhayātmaka-sūtitvād
vāsudevaḥ paraḥ pumān
prakṛtiḥ puruṣaś ceti
śabdair eko 'bhidhīyate

To generate the universe, the Lord acts indirectly as the puruṣa and directly as the prakṛti. Because both energies emanate from Lord Vāsudeva, the all-pervasive Supreme Personality of Godhead, He is known as both prakṛti and puruṣa. Therefore Vāsudeva is the cause of everything (sarva-kāraṇa-kāraṇam [Bs. 5.1]).

6 Chapter 9th chapter, verses 26 and 27. Translation Again with repetition. By his inconceivable internal potency, the supreme personality of God expands into various transcendental bodies. Acts incarnation of strength among the living gods, Incarnation among saints. By his conscious mercy. We’re always harassed by the demons. He is the supreme worshipable deity. He is the supreme cause represented as the male and female creative energy. In our fearful condition, let us take shelter of Him.

We are sure the Supreme Lord, our supreme soul will give us protection. When in trouble, pray. That’s what the devas do. Whenever, when everything is hopeless, when there is no solution in sight, when it looks like everything is going negative, all the normal means of defense, of survival, everything is gone that take shelter of a supreme personality path. People generally, when they’re in really tough times, the pious people, they become losers. The impious people, the Naradamas, the Asuras and the Mayapa Gyanis and the Buddhas, the ignorant. What do you call the foolish? Like a darky deity? First sentence or intelligence? Intelligence is stolen by Maya, the demons. And the lowest among mankind generally don’t take shelter. Krishna. But the pious people, those who are in need, they’re in distress, they’re acquisitive or they have knowledge, they take shelter of the supreme Lord.

So which category are the devas fitting under at this moment? Pious people. Okay, which of the four kinds of pious people or conditions? And those in distress? Some in knowledge and some everyone in distress. So there they have knowledge about the supreme personality of God. There are some of the lords. They have knowledge about the Lord. But they don’t always take shelter of the Lord. They only take shelter when they’re in trouble. Prabhupada calls them partial recipients of the Lord’s mercy. They only give the Lord’s mercy when they’re in trouble. At least for them, trouble is a big benefit. It’s a blessing in disguise. Because when they get in trouble, silent mode, they get in trouble. Then they think about the Lord. Maybe other times they were thinking they know about the Lord, but they’re busy with sense gratification.

They’re busy with whatever else they do. Suddenly everything goes wrong. Nothing works out. Then they have to think about the supreme personality of Madhu, that he’s the only one who is there to help him. All the other options are finished. The Srila Prabhupada said that imperial lords, they always take them off the Lord. Therefore they are full tag benefactors of the Lord’s mercy. The Pandavas, they thought about the Lord when they were in trouble. They also thought about the Lord when they were in success. When they were victorious, they invited the Lord for all the rajasuyas, different yagyas and sacrifices. Whether I am living or dying, whether I am in success. Sometimes the devas are called sakha devotees. They have worshiped the Lord, but with some material desires. They want the Lord’s blessings and everything.

In order to see the world should be a peaceful, nice place. What are goodness. There will be peace on earth, peace in the universe, peace for everybody that we can peacefully enjoy life. So the direction is not so much to serve the Lord, rather serving the Lord. Because they got to. Otherwise there’s no other hope for them. They like the Lord, but they’re serving in an immigrant indirectly. Now they’re serving her again. We want to be more than so calm. The bodies we want to be discounted bodies. We want to be selfless. Devotees always serve the Lord in all conditions. In fame and infamy, success and failure, Praise and criticism and happiness and distress. Probably all of you have experienced all of these things. Everybody likes the positive ones. Sometimes the negative ones happen, which is probably more often.

We tend to fall into the mortar within us at best. At best. Sometimes you fall into the more the demons that’s worse for durian become envious and angry and destructive. Tamasic, sinful. The Velas, they’re not somewhat sinful, they’re pious. They enjoy their sense gratification according to the religious principles. And occasionally they mess it Up Indra sometimes got lusty and wild angels, they’re all chips or chainsaw luster and fell down. Then he got a reaction like immediately he had to run from the reaction. Do some tapasya to get rid of it. Got cursed on time for his mistakes. Those things are high level. Generally they follow otherwise by fear or body. The nature of being an immortal goodness. You see here on this panel that some people are quite religious. They follow within their own religious norms.

They follow that their norms are not so demanding. But at least they have some principle and implies. So the devas, they also live by very high principles. In order to get to the planets of the devas somebody has to be a very pious person. Somebody asked Prabhupada where does a very pious Christian school. And he said that they go to Jhana Loki which is very much concerned with helping the people in the universe be peaceful and happy. So. The devotees of Kṛṣṇa they want to be Suddha Bhakti. They want to be. They don’t want to go to Deva Loka. They don’t want to go to heavenly planets. They don’t want to go to the celestial worlds. They don’t want to become angels in the material world. They want to go especially they want angels. Figure it out. Was to be cast.

There was a Mariah Sarah fireman there in the house of Mother Pushpecker. She had a book encyclopedia Angels must be available on angel. It’s a really thoroughly interesting book. It’s got gallium from all the different biblical texts, the different types of angels. And they have angels in the form of kids that never grow old. Ever heard of angels like that? Sounded like the kumaras. It’s got angels who are in the material world who are controlling the different elements. So I make sure and serve the Lord in the material world. Sounds to me just like the demigods. Then it’s got angels who are in the spiritual in the kingdom of God are directly serving the Lord. Higher level angel parshadas. So many different. We have a list of 18,000 varieties. Sometimes, you know people pick out all the differences between different religions.

But actually we worship God to Hindu to Mata or whatever they call them. But actually in their theology they have that. It also fits in within their scheme of things. According to this book in the Arab just happened to see the book there.

So.

These are very elevated personalities. When they’re in trouble, they directly pray the Lord. And it says in the next verse that the Lord enters into their heart and he appears to them. You have to be pretty Elevated personality. For there’s not too many people in the history of this planet and other traditions where the Lord actually appears to. Here the Lord actually appears to them, spirulinates and blesses them, gives them some solutions about that. The healer meditating on the Lord. They are saying he is God Transcendental form, Different forms for minding out by his internal. In other words, they understand these forms are not coming from the material energy. The daevalist forms are from the material energy. They all have material form much better than we do. And they have more subtle forms, more elevated forms that don’t grow old very quickly.

Celestial forms that are invisible to us unless they want to make themselves this ones that are mystically powerful. But at this particular moment, this demon Vidrasura was created by Vitapatsya and the mantras and the sacrifices of. Twas Book. Twas Book. And therefore he had a superpower. He was more powerful than the naval, which is very reactive. Only navals. Or ten times or hundred times more powerful than any demon. This Plusqua. He was a human being. He was a Brahman. Brahman, maybe not on this planet with this planet. Or apparently he was a human Brahman. And he by doing Papasias and performing the sacrifice, he was able to create a kind of mystical son in the form of Richardsura. The most enemy of Hindra. Now said he slipped a bit when he said the mantra. So do we Indra’s Emmy or Emmy and Indra.

One of them means that both are enemies indra. One mean that he actually can defeat Indra. And the other means that these enemy Indra. But Indra can defeat him. So that was the sin. But it was the second one that came in. I don’t know the exact Sanskrit, excuse me description of how that happened. This would happen. So these ritualistic karma Khanda Yajnas are. Mechanical. Or you have to pronounce the mantras exactly. Of a certain meter and a certain rhythm, of a certain iteration. And then you get a certain result. If you say a little bit wrong opposite different things start happening. Therefore, those kind of yajnas are prohibitive because of Ramanas, especially really critical ones like Ashwami. You to do life and death. Because they can’t change the mantras properly. Even if that Yuga in that environment was buckling. A slight error.

You can imagine today it was the situation people don’t have any purity or much purity and much ability to be very mentally controlled. A few more problems on the planet. I Forget what year 6075 or something like that. There was big yagya. There was a drought in Uttar Pradesh and there was a huge yagya that they performed a Tirupati with somebody. A thousand and eight kundas spent millions of dollars on this. At least five crores on was more than a million dollars. So and the idea was that this yagya would bring rain. It was an arraigned sacrifice. So in Yebi they have referees that see whether the priest cheered the mantras properly. Then you have referees and the referee. Then you have the Brahma, the hand of the holy Reg. The referees were finding so many faults. It was like it was the inconceivable.

I set up producing rank, producing smoke. The whole yajna became filled with smoke that led to right off and couldn’t breathe. So it was a total failure. Problem Hyderabad they said we’re going to do Hari Nami again. The Hari Nami agin will bring lame. And then would they start doing Haryana in Central park and start raining for three days. The biggest miracle is to make mushrooms and Yamaha. When the devas fall in Maya, usually it means that they just get puffed up and forget that they get all the power from Krishna. That’s usually how they fall in Maya. Sometimes the devas get into like the sons of Kubera. They got into pretty risque stuff. But then they got cursed and leak out trees. A bit of a high risk. Big changes like Varshi are moving around handling plants.

They aren’t supposed to waste their life like he’s doing some scalp produce. Devas, they tend to do some sense gratification. Then they do some sacrifice and bring some Somara and rid of their karmas so that they can be a risk. You know, a lot of sense gratification we have over there. But usually within certain limits. Present in this world. If they deviate from their devotions or if they become devotees or they deviate, if they all go to wherever they were before or to some even course and then you know, it will be smaller us to make up for it.

And.

Then we are totally entangled. Here are some of the falls into Maya Tamagona, something they can get. Drug addiction, aids, illicit sex. Maybe they can get aids. Today the incidence of sexually transmitted diseases is very high. It’s illicit sex and it’s going up not only here, but in many of the European countries they’re very much alarmed. In the UK they’re very large. The incidents of all kinds of horrible diseases which I don’t want to mention here in the temple are Expanding like anything apart from apes. People are very careless, even materially speaking about what they’re doing and spiritually. So these devotees went from. If their fall down was to come to the mortal Buddha, then they would take birth in the heavenly paths. Fall down from pirbati to a little bit, you know, notarily oriented, the highest activity.

Then we fall down the next we go to actually tamastika, which is very much abundant. Kali Yuga. You don’t have to go far from here to find intensive areas of Tama, Gong and Kali. Usually you have to go west. Now you can go southeast, east, west, all over the place surrounded. You’re here talking to the spiritual world, you know, vertical fire. You got the gambling centers now nearby, there’s gambling and there’s all the other things going on. You see, you’re hiding out of burning. We go right to hell trying to get people to channel. And so the situation is Maya now is that the filter of heli is over. Maya’s out of something that set the Yuga. So people fall in the baya and just become pious. They don’t remain fixed in the pure devotional service, the devas.

And their big problem is they attack by the demons and they get too much sense gratification. So then they forget about serving the supreme Lord. So some veas were came and prayed for Lord Chaitanya Mahbubhu. That Lord Chaitanya Mah, you’re coming now in the most merciful incarnation. In all your incarnation, like Matsha, Puram, Raha, Ashima, like here mentioned so many incarnations. You don’t give love of habit, you need moksha, you give liberation easily, relatively easy. But V is very hard to get from the other incarnations. That’s Krishna and Rama. To some extent they give. But for Krishna, you have to surrender to Kṛṣṇa to get love by him. But you Chim, you’re so merciful. You give them a lot of Krishna to people, even though they don’t ask for it, even though they’re not qualified. Because consider Islam’s qualified. This one’s my fault.

It’s really getting off. You just have to want it, take it. The danger of course, is that because we get it so easy. Easy come, easy go. We get it so easy. We don’t understand how valuable it is. What Chaitanya Mahu is giving us is so priceless because we somehow give easily. Sometimes we don’t take it very serious in our mind. And our senses drag us to some hellish places. And when we lose the taste for Tanning. We lose the taste for tsunami chanting and we become totally entangled. Some people become totally entangled in different kinds of. That. The danger is there. So it’s very important that everyone understands how fortunate we are in our Krishna consciousness and how we need to protect our Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Some of the charyas describe the Kṛṣṇa Consciousness as a type of valuable jewel.

If you have priceless crown jewel diamonds, it was worth, you know, millions and millions of dollars. Just like it was on the boat. It’s amazing where they leave their deeds and they leave their valuable things. Leave their cat and my uniform. How many people forget their money belts in the toilet? We’re so careless, right? What to speak? If we have a valuable diamond or a goddamn jewel, a priceless jewel, you really have to protect it. So we have a most priceless gem of Krishna consciousness. We’re like children tail into Africa. You know, Somebody gives a little kid picks up a hundred dollar note And Miley knows $100 note. Someone knows what it’s worth. Hey, listen, I will give you a license for that piece of smelly paper. Give me lozenges. Misty sweet sucking on the smoke.

If the daily doesn’t with $100, you can buy, I don’t know how much, 50 kilos of soup sandwiches. So Viga cheated Maya Tommy Rothworth Gratification. And then we lose our taste for Krishna Kanza. We lose our inspiration, losing our enthusiasm and everything. All the material karmas that were held in advance by Krishna’s mercy. As we start to keep on practicing Krishna consciousness, all the kindness he burned off and so been held in the veins. We haven’t fully started enough to already burn them all off. And then we started breaking principles and started getting loose and started to stop chanting. So the karmas start coming back. We start making new karmas, which is worse, right? No wonder why we’re in so much difficulty and so many problems. Krishna doesn’t love me anymore. Krishna loves us. Unfortunately, we don’t love Krishna directly. We’re loving Krishna’s energies.

So this here is the source of the refugee the material energies. Both the male and female aspects of material energy. Is the Virapa home until world is in direct expansion one of his energy. So we’re loving this material energy to illusion. But that doesn’t help us. That’s the illusion. That’s the network of illusion. That’s what keeps us balanced. We want to make green from that. Because we have material bodies. We have bodies that actually condition. They have desires and needs. So Krishna gives us some ways of satisfying that within certain parameters. So we don’t get deviated. We do everything in such a way that we can consider it as some offering to Kṛṣṇa. This will avoid the most destructive. So that’s why in Kali, these four sinful activities are where Kali resides. We’re supposed to avoid those devotees carelessly going to love that.

If we don’t stay strong in our Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then naturally Maya becomes stronger, belly becomes stronger. That’s why it’s imperative that we chant. We keep chanting and we keep afloat in this ocean of Maya. We can tolerate all kinds of distractions. But if we’re not Krishna conscious, then the distractions seem too much, too attractive even for weak. The obviously seem very attractive within somehow. That’s the tapasya. Tapasya is to keep chanting, keep serving to avoid being mediated. You don’t have to fight any mountains. You don’t have to do, you know, hustle really interviews or anything. You don’t have to do something very difficult. But you have to chant Hare Krishna name Krishna service. You don’t have the haste. Someone so much in mind that don’t have any ghast or chanting. It was very unfortunate.

That means that they must have committed so many advances that their heart has become reharged. At least out of fear for falling into this. They’re praying out of fear. If the Krishna does not protect him, they’re finished. This Ritrasura is so powerful, he’s never finished in a while. So sometimes out of just sheer fear and need, as we pray to the Lord and for nothing else, at least that somebody really likes the chant can also create out of total fear and hopelessness with the Lord. So sometimes these other material impetuses can be something which is a stepping stone for us to get to pure body works. Just like Dhruva. You want position Benjin retribution for the mistreatment, the abuse he received from his father.

And a type of not so much a physical abuse, but more like an emotional abuse that the father didn’t love him, loved only the children of his younger beautiful wife. More younger wife. And both wife is beautiful younger one with more cats. So he rejected the affection to his eldest son. Because the second wife said we should only give affection to the children that come from my womb. And he was so much hand packed that he did that. Guru said I am the son of my father. So he wanted to get retribution. He wanted to get some hand of response for that. Sid was not right. Elevated motive to us. Mortal passion, ignorance, position, passion, revenge, kind of ignorance. But he was very determined. And once he began the D of the voice and now the Lord he got purified. Once he got to Darshan.

Then he realized that I was running some broken glass and I got the jewel. Krishna is so wonderful. Why don’t I know why did I want to serve Krishna used to serve him. Why was I wanting all these material things? Service to Krishna is wonderful. Sisva Swamis are praying that why we only have one time in two years. Like Brahma Ms. Mans this great that you have given us thousands of Ta to chant the holy names. And millions of years to hear the holy days. Why won’t we get the taste for the Nektim? Why won’t we just be Rhea so.

Much.

Awaken to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. We really appreciate all the negative that’s there. If we don’t appreciate it, if we don’t have the tastes like Prabhupada said we should pride. We’re not crying for Kṛṣṇa. Very unfortunate. Not crying like a universal. That’s Bodas crying. Crying when I want it. I don’t have Vishakha. I don’t have all this man. I am so opposed to Krishna. You know, the devils realize. You know it’s life and death for them. Krishna is your only hope. Vishnu is your only hope. The praying of Vishnu who protects you. Vishnu relay this is our only hope. Krishna, give me your protection. Kṛṣṇa. Protect me from all this Maya. Protect me from all this opportunities to be here. Protect me from not following the artists in my spiritual master. Protected from being deprived from their shelter. When some odds he came up.

Ra was making his prayers. Problem. What Are you praying? No, it’s like what right do we have to ask somebody? Why are you praying? What’s your problem? I am praying to the Lord that I may never call God. Whether that’s when he was praying or whether that’s what he was saying. That’s what we should be praying. But the devotees like that. We have to pray like that. We have to be thanking the Lord for his mercy. The more we have that desire. Just as we have that desire for serving the Lord. That itself is a crisis. That’s the jewel. When we lose that desire, then we love and somehow the jewel is stolen from us. The real jewel is just that we desire to be forced to. And if we keep acting out that desire, praying, trying even for the most mealifying devotee.

But we are pure devotees and we’re in the path. Krishna will bless us to help us. So when we lose that desire, that’s critical. They’re still serving the Lord Earth pious God fearing people. One thing is to be God fearing and one is to be God loving. And one is to be, you know, maybe not yet God loving, but loving to love God wanting to love God desiring. When we’re in the wanting to be God lover. It’s good for us also to still be God fearing. So that we don’t at least Maya fearing. If we are God, we don’t fear Maya fear this much. Yamaha energy Devaki when she was praying to Krishna would please take the form of a baby in the prison house when he appeared. There’s a Vishnu form take the form of baby. I am afraid of Khan’s disease.

You never attack it. Let’s just grab a little. Not using her rationale. What can Kamsa do for the supreme Lord? She’s as a mother, she’s just thinking I want my child to be protected and I owe you. So that desire to protect Krishna is symbolic of the devotee’s desire to protect his or her Krishna consciousness. We should also be afraid by Sivra palms. We should be afraid of Maya. When we’re not afraid of Maya, then Maya is what we have to be afraid of Maya to protect our Krishna. And in this battle, sometimes Maya will win this war. Sometimes Maya’s going to win a few battles. Hopefully not sometimes maybe. But we shouldn’t give up the war. We should learn. Just like the Devas. They got smash fight swallowed all their weapons. They didn’t just go run and hide.

They went mainly pain to Krishna. Somehow you protect all your devotees. You protected so many devotees. You protect all different species of life in different ways. So we’re your devotees. And we know for sure that you also protect us. To have that faith in the Lord the healer wasn’t for pure devotional reason. It was for a very pious Buddhist reason. Self preservation was a definite legitimate reason to take shelter of the world. Even devotees of course, like Uttar, she was praying for the protection on her baby. So you know, I needed her to protect my baby. Was her Dharahasha to protect her child. So very beautiful prayers of protection.

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Can find throughout the VA sit here in the AS6. We feel this prayer for protection. So we also want to go back. Prabhupada said, well, it’s just bless you. If you take initiation means you’re declaring war on Maya. Maybe some people not initiated, they might make their voice still in Maya. They’re not trying it. But if someone’s trying to make them, trying to take shelter, trying to take initiation. They take initiation and said that they’re declaring, you know, that we’re not anymore. We’re very. So that means we’re at war. She’s going to try and somehow influence us. That we have to do things simply for sensegari. This is the test. Somehow we have to remain fixed in our position. Krishna consciousness develop like become fixed. It will be a mishtada. Next thing is ruchi. How do you get a taste?

How do you know you got taste? If you’re firstly. But there’s a progression, right? First you get sradha pen. There’s Satsang ra. You have association with the devotees. Then there’s bhajanakriya. You get to start practicing a devotional service regularly. Then there’s a narayana rit to get rid of all the unwanted habits and misconceptions and things. Then you get from there you get mishtah. You get fixed. So stays fixed. You feel a little peaceful relief. Very profound taste. When we get ruchi, then we’re doing a devotional service. And you have taste constantly. A really wonderful taste by devotional service. How many would like to always have a taste of devotional service? We don’t want to get nishta. We want the taste, right? How do you get a pause to get it? And now go for high. So the studies don’t forget. We get fixed.

Why do we have to get fixed? You want to get taste, get fixed somehow. What you think sometimes uses a momentary taste on boots. Big Kirk Lab festival. Wow. That’s ecstatic. But we’re not fixed yet. So that afterwards we lose the taste. We get a little sneak preview. You know, like the movies. In the sacred image, Sri Krishna is getting a little hor d’.

Oeuvre.

A little taste. You can have this all the time. You can always be in this ecstasy. May have to be fixed in an emotional service. Then from there you get a taste. You gotta taste. And when you start tasting that make your Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Then you know you get attacked. You never want to give that up for anything. You become already attached to it. So that time it’s easier to protect your jewel because you’re really attached to it. When we first get the jewel, we have our desire to increase our conscience. We haven’t really developed a consistent taste yet. Then sometimes Maya is too attractive. You’re very careless. But once you become attached, then we’re more secure. As we progress up and we become more and more protective, more secure, more well situated in our properly situated in our svadharma.

As eternal service to Krishna. Finally we get ecstatic love from Kṛṣṇa. With that of the devotional service sometimes becomes completely overwhelming. Tears coming to the eyes, hair standing and voice choking up. Everybody wants to be in ecstasy. We don’t have to wake you up. I would love to get the $120,000 a year Professor Sally with Tador or something, you know. But again you gotta get your high school degree. Your bachelor’s, your master’s, your physical. You have to serve in the universe and thinking forever some period of time. And finally give you a Tenura. You can’t be fired anymore. When you finally get Krishna Prema then you won’t be fired anymore. So it seems. I don’t know. But if it happens right quick, I am Krishna wants to go to Taka so on to do it right quick.

But we just have to show him that we really want it. We’re trying praying Lord Shaitanim for his mercy. But he is a mercy association with devotees. Nice kirk towns festivals sometime he’s just liked. Jumps up so many levels. We just maintain that enthusiasm, determination, conviction. Avoiding a bad association. Avoiding cheating and lying and being dishonest in our dealings with ourselves or other people or Krishna Guru. The six favorable things that Rupert mentions. This whole pastime of the final where Simra gets help from Vishwa. He is able to defeat Richasrah. But Richasura is the reincarnation of who. Is vitrusor that.

Who Triptaketu Chitwicketu.

Remember the pastime of Chichiku? You remember, right? What’s your name? Subala. You know the last name of Chichigatu? Who knows the past name of sister Ketu. Sarah knows, right? What do you remember? Who was he speaking to. When he was what he was sweet bird in the street. He was a businessman. He was a brother. He was a king. And he was a king. Didn’t he have any wives? How many kids did he have? And they only got a blessing for one kid. And then what happened to his one child? Subal? What happened to his child?

Remember?

Remember? Then what was it? What’s your name back there? Oh man. What happened to Chitraktu when he realized his son was killed?

I think he called the sage and asked why his son was dead or something. Or something like that. And Sage Nairobuni and the one that gave him the blessing brought the soul back to the body. And he was so full of distress that his son didn’t remember him. So then realized that. That you know, it was the Soul that was his son on the body.

Did H elaborate on that?

He always wanted his son. And then he didn’t care what happened to it. He just wanted his son so bad. And.

What did you say?

Okay, you can have a son but something will happen. Don’t cause great distress. I don’t care. I just want a son so bad. I just want to send out care what happens. You just want it now. Then later on you learn that it’s the soul, not the body.

What’s your name again? Huh? Julian. You want to add something? When Chitra Ketus other wives were neglected because only one wife had the son. And so then all the other ones felt neglected. They got envious. And then they made a conspiracy. They killed the son so that they all get the affection of their husband again. Then when he realized his son was dead, he went probably what he felt with the mammals. Totally freaked out, hysterical, rolling the ground crying. Then these sages as happened to appear that I can see the emperor of the world bawling on the ground crying. So the son gave him so much happiness, was so unhappy that he was totally almost insane with unhappiness. And he got it right. He brought it. He brought back his son to life without a son had has out of body experience.

So he’s already seeing things on a much higher level. And then the sun was speaking from a platform of a liberating soul or which mother and father which being so many birds. So then after that what happened to Tahitu? After all this? Yeah. What’s your name?

And he was traveling in a celestial airplane.

He got the mercy from somebody. Who did he get the mercy from? He got. He actually got the mercy. He got the Darshan. The supreme personality God in which form. Whose expansion was unknown. He could go and he could get Vaishnava mount Gave him a special airplane. Used to fly around the universe on the airplane. Mystical airplane. See what I have one of those like a gave me a plane. Be careful, he might get one. All of us may go with ferry service back to Gabriel. We have what she tell me is a mystical airplane bringing us back to Gabby. Yes. Cross on the left. Back to Gabriel. So right now Chitu Ketu. Something bad happened. He went visiting someplace where he got in trouble.

Yes.

Who remembers? And your kids remember. Okay, Mahasho. Ravi wants to get any action here. He was flying over Kailash. Okay. He went over Kailash. What happened in Kailash? Remember that one? Was it Janmaskami or Julian? What’s your name? Do you remember what happened in panel, Mother Parvati was sitting on Lord Shiva’s lap. And Chittaketu was lying by and seeing Mother Parvati sit on Lord Shiva’s lap. He laughed out loud. He laughed very loud. So Mother Parvati took offense to this that he was laughing at Lord Shiva. She cursed him. Did he laugh out loud or did he give some suggestion that made a comment in the house that you’re sitting like this in front of so many.

People and Lord Sheila was embracing his wife like an ordinary man. That’s what he said.

That wasn’t like appropriate in front of other people. Right? But. The car replaced. She got angry and cursed him. What was the curse?

To become. To become a demon.

Become a demon. Then Chichikai too. What happened here? What’s in the back? What’s. What’s your name?

He just accepted the curse.

Actually he came forward and he offered his obeisances and accepted the curse. Explained that she didn’t mean to be offensive. He was inappropriate what he said. But he’s trying to just. No one wants you to stay. After that. Or not. Not disturbed by cursed. Look, he pressed down with heavy stress. He will become a demon. And he wasn’t the heck. He just took his own demon. Okay, And then who did Chitraketa become? This is the demon. So actually this demon is a devotee of Krishna. But because of this curse he has to act as a demon. So we’re going to see how actually ritual Surah, he gets back together even when he’s born as a demon. Amazing thing how somehow we’re protected by Kṛṣṇa. He says even he’s cursed. And he accepts this curse and becomes a demon. But still he gets diagnosis.

So the bottom line is that we should become very enthusiastic to always be the longest of Krishna. The conclusion was probably as the king and Deva and everything he was going to stay in the maternal world quite some time because he was getting a lot of sense gratification. So suddenly pow. Everything got turned. His whole life got turned upside down. He gets cursed by Parvati to become a demon because of a slight reach of Aisha versus position to pass the counting of Shiva. Who was he to tell Shiva? Shiva is the mana baby Guru of whole universe practically. So it wasn’t that proper racial etiquette to offer us. He was a little bit powerful in his situation. And then he realized that my apologize. But nonetheless that the curse was not withdrawn. So.

So.

Set up like this. In one life he’s not dark in quick because the being of this is finishing everything off. Just in the whole battle when it comes, you know Indra loses. He fights for. He gives Indra a real hard time. But he knows ultimately it’s his driver that he’s going to jump. So Indra like it’s demonetized. Come on Indra, you shouldn’t be detached. In the battle the warrior has to fight without attachment or morning embassy. Why are you giving up? You’re all. Ultimately everything is happening under the control of the supreme personality of God. He starts preaching to him Krishna Kantha. The Indra is like the name. What kind of demon is this? It’s mixed. You realize that some salvation kind of thing happening. If you really listen to the classes in here you should be able to remember.

You should have examinations after every chapter of the Bible. And give up the spores on the wall. It’s amazing how shallow the number. This is a sequence for many people it’s just like all new stuff. Just thinking once for shadow. A few minutes and then we absorb ourselves and try to remember. If you didn’t pick it up take the book out and read it again. It’s really there’s the more we can remember all the pastimes. At least for that time of remembering the pastime. When we’re Krishna there’s a lot of deep instructions. You’re all very fortunate that the camera is just fixed by me. Otherwise if the operator would have been there I was turning into the people who didn’t know the answers. It’s all going to be difficult. DCDs and DVDs. 30 Different ones. Chicani Rupert. One of them made.

You can get copies today if you want. DCD’s are pretty cheap like $200 DVDs but marks Mexico. But so probably this bag is also made Blue course duplicated available all around the world. To study up and have a leaf like that. Any questions? You are first.

Okay. You mentioned how important is the association of the body is as one of the process to elevate ourselves in visual consciousness. So I get a little coffee. The estimator is how by being the association of the Bodies 1 Some people experience the recovery of their integrity as human beings. So it’s confusing for me because I.

Thought that problem, for example was.

A little extreme because Lord Gintani mentioned how he rather be in a cage with hungry tigers than being among not bodies. So when I hear that from a smear by Schnaba I don’t want to commit offensive or make any comment like Chitrak that you made. I just want to ask your opinion on this matter I understand that the purpose is expand preaching and everything. But somehow other it got in my mind how it’s possible.

Association with the boys. Essential for our progress. What we call this the fair weather progressing culture. Sometimes it’s the association of devotees one of the kinds of very much offended. Or because of them. The situation with the devotees act devotees and maybe the situation becomes a tolerable or the person become very offensive and give you breakfast reasons then to be in association with the movies and feel offensively about them is not positive. You see, sometimes people leave the association of devotees with a very negative attitude towards the Usually what happens is that after some time they come back and they appreciate the bodies in the same. It was just in Ecuador and there was one devotee that he had ishtagosti to solve a loose problem with the temporal management and stuff of the devotees.

And this is devotee said I had also a problem with the temporal management at some point in my life. And I went out and I left the associated and I got into some Maya and I got kicked in so many ways and I suffered in so many ways that now by the mercy Krishna vacuum association of always trying to serve. And I just want to say that if somebody has a problem with management in a particular temple, they can kind of work it out. Or they could go to another temple or they could if they want, they could live outside the temple. But they shouldn’t go away from the association devotees. They shouldn’t alienate themselves from the devotees and they shouldn’t leave their own devotional service. Better to stay close, do service from outside. I guess he was giving his own personal realization.

So he realized that becoming bitter or angry or alienated from the devotees is really something you don’t want to do. That’s not the problem. But I don’t usually analyze all this details of not hearing from you. It’s like reminds me like sometimes people say something like kids they pick out like they’re such sharp knives. They pick out little things you say and they ask a question with all the negative. Remember you said it magically. There’s nothing else if you know, okay, the little things, the little details as they’re learning they have our active mindset. I was. Picked out that one little thing and worked that out. That’s an interesting point that. Probably the person listening to devotees were not really acting properly. His devotees made such a difficult situation. At least the highest people in the material world treat each other nice.

Superficially at least. If you go beyond the superficial thing, it’s actually quite cutthroat. So I don’t think that was a very. Was a very subjective view of my presented objective. I said it was objective. The. From our side we need to. We’re not yamoraj, we’re not yamadutas. We’re not here to judge people and criticize people too much. We’re supposed to be constructive in the system or nothing. We’re supposed to analyze for ourselves what we want to do, what we may see what other people do and analyze if that’s something I want to do or not. Those associated with people who are aware of ashnavas and we are be friendly to the peers and support, try to encourage them and try to guide. And those who are lesser standard of devotional service give themselves mercy and positive.

So.

Sometimes if somebody is put under extreme pressure from the devotees, they may not see that devotee association as positive. And then that was what I was understanding that the person was expressing something like that. But objectively I wouldn’t buy into that. Sometimes those things happen because of our own lack of humility, our own lack of tolerance. It’s very different practices. Though there were common persons on the subject presentation we should have the association at the end of the line. Even the person that made their comment is back in association with devotees, sometimes as devotees. If we don’t act very properly, we can make a person feel relief when they get out. Is this like in the time of the O Chaitanya? All these Brahmanas were supposed to be devoted to Brahmanas, right? But they were so critical in a private house of Shivas Suja.

When it creates an environment where we began to force people to want to go out and be secluded at the same time. We want to maintain a particular standard. In our community or maintain our protection on our children and others. So it’s a hard thing when we have a village like we cried indiana, Maya forks a village. It’s probably don’t know that but I grew up there, I had a grass hut. So I was attracting all the villagers and that’s how I learned Bengali. We’re talking to villagers. So villagers have their own kind of mentality, you know, village. Everybody knows what everybody else is doing and they have their own puritan kind of expectations. People get ostracized, they get almost kicked out or just excommunicated something from. From the village social structure.

Sometimes they stone them, iron them off physically and say, you know, villages are quite amazing heavy kind of thing. Depending on what their morality quotes are and what Their expectations. It’s a big thing. Even somebody in the government sleep. When they get married, whether or not the family is going to accept the wife is an issue. So they have a ceremony after the marriage where the wife serves rice to all the family members. And at the eida, it means that she’s accepted. That ceremony is called bobat, the rights serving rights. In our own village structure. How we can balance the thing and not be self fanatical one hand and not allow ourselves to become degraded. So maybe that kind of situation, someone may feel the pressure. They have not lived up to what’s expected in the community.

And there’s a lot of pressure put on the person that they should conform. And if for some reason they’re not able to conform or their false ego gets in too much, then they run off. And for a while they’re going to feel some relief. It’s a temporary relief. Once things cool down, eventually they won’t be actively. It’s more of a tangible situation. In some of our temples, a situation with so many times for some people because of maybe the bad management or some intolerance or minor things. If you can apply that thing where sword has two edges, you can apply that same thing back to the same people that are staying there. If we had time to analyze each statement of a microscope or microscope, Some of these things are reactions, right?

Somebody who was a manager of the temple, held the doctor boys, threw a bunch of people out. Later on down the street, you find that he gets thrown out from his family or he gets thrown off from his business. He gets thrown off, everything comes back, right? You know, it’s like what? What goes down? What goes up comes down. Everything just comes around sometimes. Then they think, why is it happening to me? Why am I suffering? Well, there’s reasons why you’re suffering. That’s the whole point. We’re supposed to realize if I am suffering, I am really probably getting a lot less. But at that moment, whether we have a humility and consciousness to swallow that it’s easy to put the blame on everybody else, maybe for our survival. Sometimes people make retreats, they go out and then they come back.

Somebody is expressing their emotions to the other. We have to take that also with a certain grain of salt. Mr. Ujreous. Project things with a scriptural backup logically, and we can come up with so many ideas. But when weather is matched up with scripture, so that’s good. When we hear things, we should analyze. This is according to scripture. Scripture says we should have associated moment. Maybe this particular association mustn’t do. But I want to have another association. So the reality was that our temples we should create such a nice environment of association. Why we should be guided by association with sometime karmies give icy reception ICR dealings. Maybe for some motivation. You go on the airplane, they take you so nice some airplane. Not everyone. Cuz that’s their job to train like that. They pay how you pay for appearing, right? Hospitality.

You see the same person when you’re waiting to get the luggage. As you know, they also got to get their. But that’s kind of like already off duty. It’s all like superficial. Sometimes you see that completely once they get off the thing. Why they’re there because they’re changing a smile. Because there are feelings on the hire. So it’s not a devotee. He’s supposed to feel the woke from the higher welcome to our temple. Hire two people at Walmart. So they walk in and say welcome. That’s their marketing tactic. We went there. We want to really welcome. We want to feel it from the heart. So sometime that was the main thing that the Rohit Temple is consistent. We have early. We have acted according to our dharma. According to what we’re supposed to be service, attitude, friendly, merciful, encouraging instead of incriminating.

We have accumulating and heavy and intolerant, so on and so forth. But often we feel that from other people. But then we in our own right we know that we’re not always the fault kind of. We don’t get when we feel the pressure.

I just wanted to quickly announce and let the devotees know that today at 11:30 there’s a special program of the Tagadi’s because It’s actually the 35th anniversary of Umar is becoming a serve National Talcott. And it starts at 11:30 at Maghe Valley at 10. And then there will be prashadam back here at the pavilion at 2. And then we will continue with some words of appreciation this evening here in the temple room at 6:30. So everyone please any snack in the evening too? Yeah, I think there’s rumor of a snack. Yeah, give me a chance. Oh wait. I got the machine oil to give you. From the Abhishek. Actually he’s not here. I am surprised.