20030610 Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 2.10.28

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 The following is a lecture given by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami Mahārāja on June 10, 2003 – in Copenhagen, Denmark. The lecture begins with a reading from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 2.10.28.

Translation by his divine grace. Thereafter, when he desired to move from one body to another, the navel and the air of departure and death were combinedly created. The navel is a shelter for both nearly death and a separating force. The prana value continues in life and the apana value stops the living force. Both the vibrations are generated from the abominable whole, the navel. This navel is a joint from one body to the other. Lord Brahma was born of the abominable whole of Nabhi Nakshai Vishnu as a separate body. And the same principle is followed even in the birth of any ordinary body. The body of the child develops in the body of the mother. Although the child is separated from the body of the mother, it is separated by cutting the navel joint.

And that is the way the supreme Lord manifested himself as separated. Many the living entities are therefore separated parts and thus they have no independence. That is the way the supreme Lord manifested himself as separated. Many living entities are therefore separated parts, unless they have no independence. Thus. End of Bhakti Vidharma Swami Translation Purport to the Srimad Bhagavatam 2nd canto 10th chapter 28th verse the answer to all questions is the name of the chapter. Like I say, Necessity is the mother of invention. They say that in Danish also. The way the creation happened in the glory back of step by step. He needs to move from one body to the next. He needs to create another body. So he’s connect to the navel. And that’s also how one way that we can leave our body. The creation like how it wants to speak.

Organs of speech are created ones to hear, organs of hearing and create ones to smell. Organs of smell in there. In the spiritual world all these things are there already naturally. But then how to do that in the material world? When that desire is there, then the creation or the invention. By the Lord and his energies. A really interesting point comes up here. For the mammals. We are all born through the connection with our mother through the navel, humans and other animals. So the point here is brought up something which maybe a little detail you don’t think about too much. How Lord Brahma is also born from the navel of Lord Vishnu. So how about this male connection in one sense is also there between. Between Vishnu and Brahma. And then from Brahma all the other living entities are created.

So then we also have connection. So all of us are direct descendants in that sense from Lord Garbhad Vishnu. Of course he is are fully transcendental. And the Brahma becomes manifest in the material energy. Somehow there’s a connection in this unique way. Sometimes Brahma is called as the father or sometimes he’s called as the grandfather. Sometimes you should. Krishna is also called as the father or grandfather. Bhagavad Gita Krishna says Ahambija Prada Gita and the seed giving father. Sometimes speculative philosophers try to figure out what comes first the chicken or the egg. That kind of. But you can say wow. Fisher says but he’s the Bija Prada. He gives the seed first. The seed would be the egg person. He’s the chicken. He’s the person who’s giving the eggs. So he gives the all these creative.

This has been done before and everything is in a seed form now. Maybe those seeds are what the scientists are studying as genes genetic and all the genetic changing in things they’re trying to do. Sometimes strange things happen in the same genes. They say how even a human being and animal the genes 99% just a few little changes. One becomes human being, the other one becomes a cow or a lion. So they changed the wrong one. You don’t know what’s in. They’re dinosaurs. So. Krishna has everything codified Brahma he has the access to all of these seeds so he wants to create. But it seems sometimes when Brahma is creating the secondary creation he doesn’t exactly always know what’s going to come out. Sometimes it feels of surprise create.

Some people turn out to be like he was attacked by those two homosexual attacking him and wanted to have relation with him and to run from him. Different things happen unexpectedly. So. This the important point here is that we are all connected to Kṛṣṇa in various ways spiritually through the material creation. And Kṛṣṇa is one and he becomes many from one. Many manifest but this one leaded out to Kamahi maintaining everybody else. From one Khamenei he maintains the One is maintaining everyone. Just like here. We’re in the Great Fire North. If the world was designed such a way that the sun just went all over the equator year round we’d be in the cold year the book House the sun goes up to the tropical down to the tropical Capricorn.

So here you get six months where you get quite enough sunlight maybe even more than you do. But you can grow things. There’s a growing season, another six months. Right now if I go to Santiago, Chile there it’s winter, it’s 0 degrees 1 degrees here it’s your next 25 degrees center there. In the summer it’s also like that 25 degrees. So of course Santiago is not the furthest south, but Chile goes right down to the Antarctica. So right now it’s in the what they call Point D Arenas, which is the southern tip of the mainland. Before that is ocean and Antarctica. Right now it  will be minus maybe 20, 30 or something. So how can anybody live, right? You can’t grow anything at that temperature. So there’s little things that the scientists take it for granted. Somehow this is all accidentally happened.

But Einstein, he looked at it, he said everything is so, you know, exactly designed. It’s not possible, it just happens by accident. Sadaputa Prabhu, he did a mathematical study just to create a one side. What if it’s by accident? What are the probabilities of that? It’s so ridiculous. It’s like some monkey banging away on a typewriter coming out with the holes in a bottle without any grammatical errors. It’s just incredibly impossible. But that’s what all the modern scientific speculations, they all say. Well, it’s the Big Bang. Everything just happens by accident. But there’s a whole chain reaction that Prabhupada would sometimes ask who set off the bang. There’s this sequence, but this sequence can all happen in a fraction of a second. Because this is with Masonic the first time this happens.

Billions and millions of millions before what is the sequence that takes a year. So many things happen, but it’s all initiated by Krishna. Just like another place in the Veritas. Everything started by sound. Omkara was the primordial sound. So once that vibration is set off, it creates a whole chain reaction. Everything starts to happen. So that Big bang  will be ohm. The ohm setting off the chain reaction. So. Probably this is good. I mean the people, some people are very attached to like their physical connection, the spiritual connection here in one sense it’s established a certain kind of almost physical connection. Brahma comes from the navel, we’re coming from Brahma. So it’s directly connected. Somebody is very attached to that type of. Nowadays there’s this. People who claim that human beings had been brought here for another thing.

But actually there’s also something like that. That Manu, he comes in here. Manu came extremely the first king of the earth, that from Manu who came from a higher level, he come and put him in being. There’s a Vedic support for that concept. The idea that we are. Evolved doesn’t make sense if we are brought from. But then why is there some similarities between different types of living entities? Maybe sometimes you have seen like this housing development, especially in like the third World or something. All one architect designed everything. The houses all tend to look like. Tile terrace in front of somebody puts them with shingles. But it’s all the same, you know, it’s the same architect. So we’re also designed by the one architect. Krishna has designed all of us.

So that’s like some kind of the way that now that they found out that the common genes you can just change a little bit and things that it shows. It’s a very efficient design model. So the same arguments for evolution can also be made for creation if we use this Vedic paradigm. But what like in evolution, Darwin, he could never figure out why would a peacock feather evolve. So whenever he saw a peacock feather, he got sick to his stomach. Because it doesn’t serve any practical purpose, does it? It’s just something totally aesthetic. So why does a peacock feather evolve? Couldn’t figure out. And in fact the peacock feather. Now they find that actually the peacock feather doesn’t really have any color. It’s designed in such a way that.

That when a human being or when a certain animal see reflects light in such a way that they see the color. It actually doesn’t have a color. It has a reflective ability to appear color. So that means that the person who designed it would have to have. You have to consider the other people who are watching it. You take all these things and it is realized. Then there’s really no other possibility than one common designer for everything. Because he’s designing the peacock in such a way that when a human looks at it, they see those colors. Or if it was just some kind of accidental chemical thing, how would that chemical thing know what you see? Anyway, it’s a big topic. Our scientists are working on these things. But from a layperson point of view, just quite interesting. The final point Prabhupada makes here.

We’re separated parts, but we have actually no independence. Everybody wants to be independent. They think they have independence. But actually because we’re all part of Kṛṣṇa, therefore ultimately we’re not fully independent. We’re given some minute independence to make certain decisions. But then we’re bound by the results of those decisions. If we realize that I am applying Krishna in a separated part and ultimately I am under Ka’s control, then if were to appreciate Kaji and agree to relate with him in a loving sense, then there’s a perfect harmony which brings a perfect peace and satisfaction. It’s when we’re rebellious and we try to push our independence Then he puts us under the material nature. We get bound by being material nature is difficult material nature’s intricacies. So actually the devotee by just simply doing everything for Kṛṣṇa can transcend the material nature.

Because we’re not trying to manifest an artificial independence. And the material nature doesn’t have any more domain over us. But somehow we can get people even accidentally to do something in harmony with Kṛṣṇa. Then it opens the door for their freedom from this into a. Somebody even accidentally changes the name of Krishna. They also cannot benefit. In Malaysia it used to be under. Used to be under Hindu kings. Six hundred years ago, Paramesh Paramaraj, he got attracted to Caribbean princess. And they told him in order to marry her he had to become a Muslim. So then he converted in order to be married with him because of his sex desire. After that the whole kingdom became Islamic. Obviously he didn’t have too much connection anymore with the Vedic culture. Being in Malaysia, he had other priorities.

So for the language, the many things that we make, like the word for date in the language. Language is Hari. They still have. So they use the word Hari as day. So one name on the same Christmas day. Then they say Hare Krishnas. They have their national Eid, you know, the day of Muhammad festival Eid. They call that Hari Rai festival day. So then the ruler, he greets a hundred thousand people. Everyone on that day. Everyone comes up. He’s a seven month has. And all the people wanted to know the Malaysian people, have you ever been there? They’re actually quite nice people. Somehow maybe they don’t realize it was a chanting of Hari so many times. I don’t know. In Denmark he did have any such hidden names of Krishna. We also had some Bhattavi in Ram something. Yeah.

So that’s called Nama Vats if they accidentally chant the name. So somehow now that give people the chant Hare Krishna and their life  will be. Thank you for your association. So I don’t know if you want me to come back. Of course, no. So whenever. Whenever he fits in. You’re passing by this new insignificant country today. Yesterday, unfortunately was the holiday. It was Christmas arrangement. I don’t know why I was just. I was in Milan. I thought I was straight flying to Lana. I said no, let’s go. I haven’t been there. I have to check out how my children are doing and how everybody’s doing. Turned out it was a holiday. I appreciate it. Turn the thing off the right way. Might as already get the class.